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		Jim Combs
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:49 pm    Post subject: Lyc IO-540 C4B5 | 
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				I am putting a new engine in my -10.  I have removed my C4B5 version.
 Wondering what kind of value an engine like this has?
 
 Specifics:
 
 Lycoming IO-540 C4B5
 5874.54 hrs TT
 1955.54 hrs SMOH
 970.64 hrs (RV-10, 5 Steel Cylinders at 984 hrs, 1 Chrome Cylinder)
 
 Includes:
 Airflow Performance fuel injection system
 LightSpeed Plasma III ignition(1) + Slick Mag(1)
 Flywheel Magnets + pickup for Lightspeed Ignition
 RV-10 Baffles
 
 Does Not Include:
 Starter
 Alternator
 Prop Governor
 
 Thanks, Jim C
 N312F, 1200 Hours
 
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		Kelly McMullen
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 5:52 am    Post subject: Lyc IO-540 C4B5 | 
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				I can't tell you what your extras are worth, but 5 yrs ago I paid $12,000 for a good core that could be rebuilt for around $26-27K, for total cost approx. $39K, in the era after Lycoming jacked the price of both engine kits and complete new engines, roughly 10K.
 There are some that would say that if your old engine isn't using unusual amount of oil and has good compressions, to keep flying it.
 Curious what you bought as replacement that you aren't reusing fuel system, ignition and baffles.
 
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 On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:55 PM Jim Combs <jiminlexky(at)gmail.com (jiminlexky(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  I am putting a new engine in my -10.  I have removed my C4B5 version.
  Wondering what kind of value an engine like this has?
  
  Specifics:
  
  Lycoming IO-540 C4B5
  5874.54 hrs TT
  1955.54 hrs SMOH
  970.64 hrs (RV-10, 5 Steel Cylinders at 984 hrs, 1 Chrome Cylinder)
  
  Includes:
  Airflow Performance fuel injection system
  LightSpeed Plasma III ignition(1) + Slick Mag(1)
  Flywheel Magnets + pickup for Lightspeed Ignition
  RV-10 Baffles
  
  Does Not Include:
  Starter
  Alternator
  Prop Governor
  
  Thanks, Jim C
  N312F, 1200 Hours
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		Jim Combs
 
 
  Joined: 24 Jan 2010 Posts: 141 Location: Lexington, Ky
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:03 am    Post subject: Lyc IO-540 C4B5 | 
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				So I bought this engine in 2008 and had the fuel system overhauled and
 added five new cylinders.   Knowing it was a high time engine, I put
 money away over the last ten years to buy a brand new engine.  I put a
 deposit on a Titan IO-540 about 4 years ago.  They kept the quoted
 price to me and this last year they built up the engine.  It included
 dual Lightspeed ignition, cold air induction, roller tappets at a
 price below what I could get thru Vans.  I have been doing oil changes
 at 50 hour intervals with oil reports.  Titan finally wanted to
 deliver the engine and this engine was at BO.  So time for a switch.
 I am making everything firewall forward "New".  New baffles and any
 related parts that needed changing out have been replaced.  So I have
 this engine and looking to recycle it.
 
 I was having an oil leak but pretty sure it was the prop governor.
 That is out for an overhaul to go on the new engine.  Compression
 numbers are good. but I would assume someone might continue to use the
 new cylinders?  I don't know, I am not an engine expert.  Hence the
 question about the value of this engine.
 
 Jim C
 N312F
 
 On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 8:56 AM Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  
  I can't tell you what your extras are worth, but 5 yrs ago I paid $12,000 for a good core that could be rebuilt for around $26-27K, for total cost approx. $39K, in the era after Lycoming jacked the price of both engine kits and complete new engines, roughly 10K.
  There are some that would say that if your old engine isn't using unusual amount of oil and has good compressions, to keep flying it.
  Curious what you bought as replacement that you aren't reusing fuel system, ignition and baffles.
 
  Sent from my TRS-80 Model 100
 
  On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:55 PM Jim Combs <jiminlexky(at)gmail.com> wrote:
 >
 > I am putting a new engine in my -10.  I have removed my C4B5 version.
 > Wondering what kind of value an engine like this has?
 >
 > Specifics:
 >
 > Lycoming IO-540 C4B5
 > 5874.54 hrs TT
 > 1955.54 hrs SMOH
 > 970.64 hrs (RV-10, 5 Steel Cylinders at 984 hrs, 1 Chrome Cylinder)
 >
 > Includes:
 > Airflow Performance fuel injection system
 > LightSpeed Plasma III ignition(1) + Slick Mag(1)
 > Flywheel Magnets + pickup for Lightspeed Ignition
 > RV-10 Baffles
 >
 > Does Not Include:
 > Starter
 > Alternator
 > Prop Governor
 >
 > Thanks, Jim C
 > N312F, 1200 Hours
 
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		Tim Olson
 
 
  Joined: 25 Jan 2007 Posts: 2882
 
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:50 am    Post subject: Lyc IO-540 C4B5 | 
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				Hi Jim,
 
 I'm almost in the same boat as you.  I've been putting away money
 for a new engine as I fly, and this year I ordered a new Titan engine.
 It's not due until mid-2020, and I'm only at 1450 hours right now
 on mine that was built zero time to new limits when I got it.  I just
 figured now is a good time to order one because in my case, someone
 else who's building can still get a few hundred or maybe even 1,000
 hours out of this one, but I can finally cash in my brand new engine
 discount and the next one will keep me going for perhaps the rest
 of my flying years.   So I'll be curious as to how your sale goes.
 Mine has enough time left on it that I'm hoping to get somewhere
 around a  1/2 share of the >$50K that the new one costs.
 Hopefully the new one will be as reliable as this one has been.
 
 Tim
 
 On 12/12/2019 9:02 AM, Jim Combs wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   So I bought this engine in 2008 and had the fuel system overhauled and
  added five new cylinders.   Knowing it was a high time engine, I put
  money away over the last ten years to buy a brand new engine.  I put a
  deposit on a Titan IO-540 about 4 years ago.  They kept the quoted
  price to me and this last year they built up the engine.  It included
  dual Lightspeed ignition, cold air induction, roller tappets at a
  price below what I could get thru Vans.  I have been doing oil changes
  at 50 hour intervals with oil reports.  Titan finally wanted to
  deliver the engine and this engine was at BO.  So time for a switch.
  I am making everything firewall forward "New".  New baffles and any
  related parts that needed changing out have been replaced.  So I have
  this engine and looking to recycle it.
 
  I was having an oil leak but pretty sure it was the prop governor.
  That is out for an overhaul to go on the new engine.  Compression
  numbers are good. but I would assume someone might continue to use the
  new cylinders?  I don't know, I am not an engine expert.  Hence the
  question about the value of this engine.
 
  Jim C
  N312F
 
  On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 8:56 AM Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:
 > I can't tell you what your extras are worth, but 5 yrs ago I paid $12,000 for a good core that could be rebuilt for around $26-27K, for total cost approx. $39K, in the era after Lycoming jacked the price of both engine kits and complete new engines, roughly 10K.
 > There are some that would say that if your old engine isn't using unusual amount of oil and has good compressions, to keep flying it.
 > Curious what you bought as replacement that you aren't reusing fuel system, ignition and baffles.
 >
 > Sent from my TRS-80 Model 100
 >
 > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:55 PM Jim Combs <jiminlexky(at)gmail.com> wrote:
 >> I am putting a new engine in my -10.  I have removed my C4B5 version.
 >> Wondering what kind of value an engine like this has?
 >>
 >> Specifics:
 >>
 >> Lycoming IO-540 C4B5
 >> 5874.54 hrs TT
 >> 1955.54 hrs SMOH
 >> 970.64 hrs (RV-10, 5 Steel Cylinders at 984 hrs, 1 Chrome Cylinder)
 >>
 >> Includes:
 >> Airflow Performance fuel injection system
 >> LightSpeed Plasma III ignition(1) + Slick Mag(1)
 >> Flywheel Magnets + pickup for Lightspeed Ignition
 >> RV-10 Baffles
 >>
 >> Does Not Include:
 >> Starter
 >> Alternator
 >> Prop Governor
 >>
 >> Thanks, Jim C
 >> N312F, 1200 Hours
 
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		Tim Olson
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:34 am    Post subject: Lyc IO-540 C4B5 | 
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				Sorry, I see you said "Titan".  I got a Lycoming Thunderbolt.
 Just wanted to make sure I spoke correctly.
 Tim
 
 
 On 12/12/2019 9:02 AM, Jim Combs wrote:
  	  | Quote: | 	 		   So I bought this engine in 2008 and had the fuel system overhauled and
  added five new cylinders.   Knowing it was a high time engine, I put
  money away over the last ten years to buy a brand new engine.  I put a
  deposit on a Titan IO-540 about 4 years ago.  They kept the quoted
  price to me and this last year they built up the engine.  It included
  dual Lightspeed ignition, cold air induction, roller tappets at a
  price below what I could get thru Vans.  I have been doing oil changes
  at 50 hour intervals with oil reports.  Titan finally wanted to
  deliver the engine and this engine was at BO.  So time for a switch.
  I am making everything firewall forward "New".  New baffles and any
  related parts that needed changing out have been replaced.  So I have
  this engine and looking to recycle it.
 
  I was having an oil leak but pretty sure it was the prop governor.
  That is out for an overhaul to go on the new engine.  Compression
  numbers are good. but I would assume someone might continue to use the
  new cylinders?  I don't know, I am not an engine expert.  Hence the
  question about the value of this engine.
 
  Jim C
  N312F
 
  On Thu, Dec 12, 2019 at 8:56 AM Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> wrote:
 > I can't tell you what your extras are worth, but 5 yrs ago I paid $12,000 for a good core that could be rebuilt for around $26-27K, for total cost approx. $39K, in the era after Lycoming jacked the price of both engine kits and complete new engines, roughly 10K.
 > There are some that would say that if your old engine isn't using unusual amount of oil and has good compressions, to keep flying it.
 > Curious what you bought as replacement that you aren't reusing fuel system, ignition and baffles.
 >
 > Sent from my TRS-80 Model 100
 >
 > On Wed, Dec 11, 2019 at 9:55 PM Jim Combs <jiminlexky(at)gmail.com> wrote:
 >> I am putting a new engine in my -10.  I have removed my C4B5 version.
 >> Wondering what kind of value an engine like this has?
 >>
 >> Specifics:
 >>
 >> Lycoming IO-540 C4B5
 >> 5874.54 hrs TT
 >> 1955.54 hrs SMOH
 >> 970.64 hrs (RV-10, 5 Steel Cylinders at 984 hrs, 1 Chrome Cylinder)
 >>
 >> Includes:
 >> Airflow Performance fuel injection system
 >> LightSpeed Plasma III ignition(1) + Slick Mag(1)
 >> Flywheel Magnets + pickup for Lightspeed Ignition
 >> RV-10 Baffles
 >>
 >> Does Not Include:
 >> Starter
 >> Alternator
 >> Prop Governor
 >>
 >> Thanks, Jim C
 >> N312F, 1200 Hours
 
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