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				|  Posted: Mon May 13, 2019 4:05 pm    Post subject: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. |   |  
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				| This stall was no different than all the ones I have practiced before, clean power off, at recovery when I added power (very smoothly as I always do) engine sputtered and stumbled, then continued fine.
 During descend to pattern when I reduced power, engine was running a bit rougher than usual , not terrible but I  noticed it, 5 MP and 2000 RPMs.
 Added some power at pattern and it smoothed out also at low power settings for the landing was smooth.
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:11 am    Post subject: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. |   |  
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				| I had similar issues with my CJ, happened after about 30mins flight time and adding power smoothed it out. Problem became worse during subsequent flights and it turned out to be failing mag coils. I couldn’t repeat the issue on the ground even after prolonged warmup and ground running.
 How long into your flight before this occurred?
 I removed the old mag coils, had them both rewound and it now runs stronger than ever.
 
 Just my thoughts.
 
 Maybe do a few more over airfield flights for plus 30 mins and see if it happens again.
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 7:30 am    Post subject: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. |   |  
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				| That is a classic coil problem which will only manifest itself when the engine is hot and the heat has totally penetrated the magneto and, more specifically the coil. It is very difficult to get the magneto sufficiently hot to have this partial failure on the ground. And the only solution is to change the coil!
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				|  Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:09 am    Post subject: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. |   |  
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				| If I may ask, who rewound the coils?
Thx
 Dennis
 
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  	  | Quote: |  	  | On May 14, 2019, at 11:11 AM, Harv <martin.harvey(at)kbr.com> wrote: 
 
 
 I had similar issues with my CJ, happened after about 30mins flight time and adding power smoothed it out. Problem became worse during subsequent flights and it turned out to be failing mag coils. I couldn’t repeat the issue on the ground even after prolonged warmup and ground running.
 
 How long into your flight before this occurred?
 
 
 I removed the old mag coils, had them both rewound and it now runs stronger than ever.
 
 Just my thoughts.
 
 Maybe do a few more over airfield flights for plus 30 mins and see if it happens again.
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Tue May 14, 2019 11:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. |   |  
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				| In the UK we have some specialist firms who have been rewinding coils for something like 75years (family run business) and they handled it. 
 Contact me off list if you need any more details.
 
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				|  Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 12:22 am    Post subject: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. |   |  
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				| Yes, after over 30 years' experience with these engines, and particularly
the magnetos/coils, we investigated all the significant UK companies engaged
 in magneto overhauls, and chose the one we felt was the best. They designed
 a new coil for us three years ago, and importantly with an external
 capacitor/condenser. The reason for this is that the primary cause of
 failure is the capacitor overheating and degenerating with age, and of
 course this is made worse since it is normally sitting inside a coil of hot
 wire!
 
 So we now make new coils with a high-technology Panasonic capacitor bonded
 to the outside of the coil so it remains cooler, but still fits comfortably
 inside the magneto. We have sold many to customers all over the world with
 100% satisfaction!
 
 Richard
 RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
 Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
 Tel:  +44 (0)1544 340120   Fax:  +44 (0)1544 340129
 e-mail: richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com
 www.russianaeros.com
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				|  Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 3:21 am    Post subject: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. |   |  
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				| Thanks Richard.  Now that I know where to go, you can be sure when folks ask me, I'll be sending them your way.
Dennis
 
 
 On Wednesday, May 15, 2019, 4:25:30 AM EDT, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com> wrote:
 
 
 
 
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 Yes, after over 30 years' experience with these engines, and particularly
 
 the magnetos/coils, we investigated all the significant UK companies engaged
 
 in magneto overhauls, and chose the one we felt was the best. They designed
 
 a new coil for us three years ago, and importantly with an external
 
 capacitor/condenser. The reason for this is that the primary cause of
 
 failure is the capacitor overheating and degenerating with age, and of
 
 course this is made worse since it is normally sitting inside a coil of hot
 
 wire!
 
 So we now make new coils with a high-technology Panasonic capacitor bonded
 
 to the outside of the coil so it remains cooler, but still fits comfortably
 
 inside the magneto. We have sold many to customers all over the world with
 
 100% satisfaction!
 
 Richard
 
 RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
 
 Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
 
 Tel:  +44 (0)1544 340120   Fax:  +44 (0)1544 340129
 
 e-mail: richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)
 
 www.russianaeros.com
 
 WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. |   |  
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				| Was not the mags.
Intake tube on cyl 5 had a big hole, the drain tube broke and was sucking air.
 Fixed that.
 
 Now engine runs smoother than ever.
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:27 am    Post subject: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. |   |  
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				| That certainly will do it!
Dennis
 
 
 On Monday, June 10, 2019, 9:21:38 AM EDT, motoadve <motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr> wrote:
 
 
 
 
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 Was not the mags.
 
 Intake tube on cyl 5 had a big hole, the drain tube broke and was sucking air.
 
 Fixed that.
 
 Now engine runs smoother than ever.
 
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 Cessna 182 P
 
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 Read this topic online here:
 
 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489574#489574
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 5:52 am    Post subject: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. |   |  
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				| You don't mention the kind of manifold oil drain system that was used and what actually had failed. But, in our experience, it is a mistake to use the standard Russian manifold drain plug (I have no experience of this on the Nanchang engine); drill it and tap it for an AN fitting. This is because it is relatively thin aluminium and simply not designed to be drilled and tapped. We make a much thicker plug to replace the Russian one that has much greater strength and is designed to be tapped.
 Richard
 
 
 RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
 Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
 Tel:  +44 (0)1544 340120   Fax:  +44 (0)1544 340129
 e-mail: richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)
 www.russianaeros.com
 WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
 In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
 
 
 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese
 Sent: 10 June 2019 14:26
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit.
 
 That certainly will do it!
 
 Dennis
 
 
 On Monday, June 10, 2019, 9:21:38 AM EDT, motoadve <motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr (motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr)> wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 --> Yak-List message posted by: "motoadve" <motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr (motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr)>
 
 
 
 Was not the mags.
 
 Intake tube on cyl 5 had a big hole, the drain tube broke and was sucking air.
 
 Fixed that.
 
 
 
 Now engine runs smoother than ever.
 
 
 
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 www.Backcountry182.com
 
 Cessna 182 P
 
 CJ -6
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Read this topic online here:
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 7:36 am    Post subject: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. |   |  
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				| Richard, What do you have for the small intake tube drains that appear on some engines?
Dennis
 
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 On Jun 10, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | <![endif]-->   <![endif]--> You don't mention the kind of manifold oil drain system that was used and what actually had failed. But, in our experience, it is a mistake to use the standard Russian manifold drain plug (I have no experience of this on the Nanchang engine); drill it and tap it for an AN fitting. This is because it is relatively thin aluminium and simply not designed to be drilled and tapped. We make a much thicker plug to replace the Russian one that has much greater strength and is designed to be tapped.
 
 Richard
 
 
 RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
 Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
 Tel:  +44 (0)1544 340120   Fax:  +44 (0)1544 340129
 e-mail: richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)
 www.russianaeros.com
 WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
 In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
 
 
 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese
 Sent: 10 June 2019 14:26
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
 Subject: Re: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit.
 
 That certainly will do it!
 
 Dennis
 
 
 On Monday, June 10, 2019, 9:21:38 AM EDT, motoadve <motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr (motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr)> wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 --> Yak-List message posted by: "motoadve" <motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr (motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr)>
 
 
 
 Was not the mags.
 
 Intake tube on cyl 5 had a big hole, the drain tube broke and was sucking air.
 
 Fixed that.
 
 
 
 Now engine runs smoother than ever.
 
 
 
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 www.Backcountry182.com
 
 Cessna 182 P
 
 CJ -6
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Read this topic online here:
 
 
 
 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489574#489574
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:25 am    Post subject: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. |   |  
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				| We change the complete intake tube – those ones with a very small hole are simply too small to fit an appropriate AN fitting.
 I attach photographs of the much thicker plugs that we manufacture.
 
 
 RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
 Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
 Tel:  +44 (0)1544 340120   Fax:  +44 (0)1544 340129
 e-mail: richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)
 www.russianaeros.com
 WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
 In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
 
 
 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Savarese
 Sent: 10 June 2019 16:25
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit.
 
 Richard,
 What do you have for the small intake tube drains that appear on some engines?
 
 Dennis
 Sent from my iPhone
 On Jun 10, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | You don't mention the kind of manifold oil drain system that was used and what actually had failed. But, in our experience, it is a mistake to use the standard Russian manifold drain plug (I have no experience of this on the Nanchang engine); drill it and tap it for an AN fitting. This is because it is relatively thin aluminium and simply not designed to be drilled and tapped. We make a much thicker plug to replace the Russian one that has much greater strength and is designed to be tapped.
 
 Richard
 
 
 RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
 Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
 Tel:  +44 (0)1544 340120   Fax:  +44 (0)1544 340129
 e-mail: richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)
 www.russianaeros.com
 WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
 In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
 
 
 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese
 Sent: 10 June 2019 14:26
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
 Subject: Re: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit.
 
 That certainly will do it!
 
 Dennis
 
 
 On Monday, June 10, 2019, 9:21:38 AM EDT, motoadve <motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr (motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr)> wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 --> Yak-List message posted by: "motoadve" <motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr (motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr)>
 
 
 
 Was not the mags.
 
 Intake tube on cyl 5 had a big hole, the drain tube broke and was sucking air.
 
 Fixed that.
 
 
 
 Now engine runs smoother than ever.
 
 
 
 --------
 
 www.Backcountry182.com
 
 Cessna 182 P
 
 CJ -6
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Read this topic online here:
 
 
 
 http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=489574#489574
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 8:47 am    Post subject: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. |   |  
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				| And you might ask why there are no locking "castelations" on our thicker nuts – the answer is simply that they are always going to be used with an oil drain tube and the tube is what prevents it unscrewing itself!
 Richard
 
 
 RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
 Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
 Tel:  +44 (0)1544 340120   Fax:  +44 (0)1544 340129
 e-mail: richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)
 www.russianaeros.com
 WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
 In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
 
 
 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
 Sent: 10 June 2019 17:25
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: RE: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit.
 
 We change the complete intake tube – those ones with a very small hole are simply too small to fit an appropriate AN fitting.
 
 I attach photographs of the much thicker plugs that we manufacture.
 
 
 RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
 Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
 Tel:  +44 (0)1544 340120   Fax:  +44 (0)1544 340129
 e-mail: richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)
 www.russianaeros.com
 WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
 In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
 
 
 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Anthony Savarese
 Sent: 10 June 2019 16:25
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
 Subject: Re: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit.
 
 Richard,
 What do you have for the small intake tube drains that appear on some engines?
 
 Dennis
 Sent from my iPhone
 On Jun 10, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Richard Goode <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)> wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | You don't mention the kind of manifold oil drain system that was used and what actually had failed. But, in our experience, it is a mistake to use the standard Russian manifold drain plug (I have no experience of this on the Nanchang engine); drill it and tap it for an AN fitting. This is because it is relatively thin aluminium and simply not designed to be drilled and tapped. We make a much thicker plug to replace the Russian one that has much greater strength and is designed to be tapped.
 
 Richard
 
 
 RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS
 Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK
 Tel:  +44 (0)1544 340120   Fax:  +44 (0)1544 340129
 e-mail: richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com (richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com)
 www.russianaeros.com
 WORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES
 In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.
 
 
 From: owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of A. Dennis Savarese
 Sent: 10 June 2019 14:26
 To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)
 Subject: Re: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit.
 
 That certainly will do it!
 
 Dennis
 
 
 On Monday, June 10, 2019, 9:21:38 AM EDT, motoadve <motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr (motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr)> wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
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 Was not the mags.
 
 Intake tube on cyl 5 had a big hole, the drain tube broke and was sucking air.
 
 Fixed that.
 
 
 
 Now engine runs smoother than ever.
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jun 10, 2019 11:12 am    Post subject: Did a stall, and engine almost quit. |   |  
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				| Thanks Richard.
Dennis
 
 A. Dennis Savarese
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 On 6/10/2019 12:24 PM, Richard Goode wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | We change the complete intake tube ??? those ones with a very small hole
 are simply too small to fit an appropriate AN fitting.
 
 I attach photographs of the much thicker plugs that we manufacture.
 
 *RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS***
 
 *Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK*
 
 Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120???? Fax:?? +44 (0)1544 340129
 
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 <mailto:richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com>
 
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 *From:*owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com
 [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Anthony
 Savarese
 *Sent:* 10 June 2019 16:25
 *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com
 *Subject:* Re: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit.
 
 Richard,
 
 What do you have for the small intake tube drains that appear on some
 engines?
 
 Dennis
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 On Jun 10, 2019, at 9:52 AM, Richard Goode
 <richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com
 <mailto:richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com>> wrote:
 
 You don't mention the kind of manifold oil drain system that was
 used and what actually had failed. But, in our experience, it is a
 mistake to use the standard Russian manifold drain plug (I have no
 experience of this on the Nanchang engine); drill it and tap it
 for an AN fitting. This is because it is relatively thin aluminium
 and simply not designed to be drilled and tapped. We make a much
 thicker plug to replace the Russian one that has much greater
 strength and is designed to be tapped.
 
 Richard
 
 *RICHARD GOODE AEROBATICS*
 
 *Rhodds Farm, Lyonshall, Hereford, HR5 3LW, UK*
 
 Tel: +44 (0)1544 340120???? Fax:?? +44 (0)1544 340129
 
 e-mail: richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com
 <mailto:richard.goode(at)russianaeros.com>
 
 www.russianaeros.com <http://www.russianaeros.com>
 
 *W**ORLD LEADERS IN RUSSIAN SPORTING AIRCRAFT & ENGINES*
 
 *In partnership with Aerometal Kft, Hungary.*
 
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 [mailto:owner-yak-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *A.
 Dennis Savarese
 *Sent:* 10 June 2019 14:26
 *To:* yak-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:yak-list(at)matronics.com>
 *Subject:* Re: Re: Did a stall, and engine almost quit.
 
 That certainly will do it!
 
 Dennis
 
 On Monday, June 10, 2019, 9:21:38 AM EDT, motoadve
 <motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr <mailto:motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr>> wrote:
 
 
 <mailto:motoadve(at)racsa.co.cr>>
 
 Was not the mags.
 
 Intake tube on cyl 5 had a big hole, the drain tube broke and was
 sucking air.
 
 Fixed that.
 
 Now engine runs smoother than ever.
 
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 www.Backcountry182.com <http://www.Backcountry182.com>
 
 Cessna 182 P
 
 CJ -6
 
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