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callsign(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 2:09 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

Anybody using one of these? Best size, type of yokes? Tool vendor source?



Thanks,



Link McGarity

RV6/N42GF

RV10/N41GF(rsvd)/#40622

Wellington, FL (FD38)

DAVELEIKAM(at)wi.rr.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:10 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

A pneumatic squeezer is a must to have even at the high price.  I have three 

different yokes, and I use all of them.  I got mine from "Plane Tools."  I 

wouldn't be without it.  They dimple very well also.



Dave Leikam

Muskego, WI

#40496

N89DA

Elevators

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effectus(at)rogers.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 4:16 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

Link,



    I highly recommend that you purchase one of these tools. I purchased 

mine from Avery and it has performed beautifully. I purchased a 3" yoke, a 

4" yoke that has a narrow tip for tight spots and the longeron yoke. The 3" 

yoke stays on the tool most of the time and the longeron yoke comes in 

second when it comes to usage. The narrow tip 4" yoke isn't used as much as 

the other two but is definitely worth purchasing. I use it for everything. I 

even designed an adapter plate that converts it into a large C-frame 

dimpler.



    Personally, I couldn't imagine building a metal airplane without this 

tool.



Dave Hertner

RV-10 C-GVMH #40164

London, Ontario

Canada CYXU

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jjessen

Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 285
Location: OR

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:45 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

I would be interested in taking a look, should you have pictures or a

schematic, at your adapter plate for the C-frame.  



John J

  40328



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Rick S.

Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 347
Location: Las Vegas

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:05 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

You betcha!!



It's worth every penny. I have a 4" no-hole, a 3" regular C and a 2.5" Longeron. If I did it again I would have gone with a 3" no-hole instead of the 4. The reason being is you can use the adjustable rivet set with the three but not the 4. Oh yeah, get the adjustable ram/rivet set too. Worth it's weight in shims. Can't say enough about the value of this tool. I used it to complete all my aluminum work on the RV-10. I don't have a hand squeezer in my collection of tools. Buyer beware off E-bay only because of the few stories I have heard about getting bad ones, but they did manage to get the bad ones rebuilt for some savings over a new one if your into taking that risk.



I picked mine up at    http://www.rivettools.com    along with their 20 piece "RV" rivet sets. These are the BEST made sets I ever used and it has all the screw dimple dies you will need as well. My dimple dies are still intact (heard of nubs breaking off some) and I found they make cleaner dimples than many of the cheaper versions if you can call $28-30 cheap! The set is $150.



No affiliation with them just great service and the tool is still going strong.



Rick S.

40185



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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:17 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

John, you should go see Ed out by you.  He's got a good

setup for his hand squeezer.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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John Jessen wrote:

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 I would be interested in taking a look, should you have pictures or a

 schematic, at your adapter plate for the C-frame.  

 

 John J

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:29 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

Rick wrote:

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 You betcha!!

 

 It's worth every penny. I have a 4" no-hole, a 3" regular C and a

 2.5" Longeron. If I did it again I would have gone with a 3" no-hole

 instead of the 4. The reason being is you can use the adjustable

 rivet set with the three but not the 4. Oh yeah, get the adjustable

 ram/rivet set too. Worth it's weight in shims. Can't say enough about

 the value of this tool. 


	


Hey Rick, I used my adjustable set exclusively throughout the

build, and never even tried the primitive washer way.  It's

funny that you say that about the 4" no hole, because I

used it a ton.  Is it me, or is one of us smokin' somethin'?



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Vern(at)teclabsinc.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:32 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

Hi Link,



I purchased a reconditioned one from the Yardstore at www.yardstore.com.

Have two yokes a standard 3" deep one and a 4" thin nose (has no hole in

the yoke just a flat surface for forming the shop head.) From time to

time I wish I had a longeron yoke. Also an adjustable set holder (it

threads in and out to adjust for working thickness) is a nice touch,

compared to the fixed set holders that you add washers under the set for

adjustment. Both will work though. One thing to keep in mind if you look

into the Yardstore is most of their squeezers come with the fixed set

holder. However the adjustable sets holders are available separately

from Cleveland tools as are new squeezers.



Vern (40324 wings)   



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bcondrey

Joined: 03 Apr 2006
Posts: 580

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:38 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

I started out the primitive way with a hand squeezer and as soon as I

tried out a friend's pneumatic unit I bought one.  I have the same yokes

as others have mentioned - 3" C, Longeron and a 4" no hole.  I keep the

4" no hole yoke in my hand squeezer.  Over 95% of what I need to do uses

either the C or Longeron yokes.



As others have said, I can't imagine doing this project (especially the

slow build) without a pneumatic squeezer.



Bob #40105



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Rick S.

Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 347
Location: Las Vegas

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

My 4" no hole hardly ever got used mainly because you had to use washers/shims. When it was needed it was NEEDED I'll say that!  My adjustable set worked great on the 2 & 3" yokes.



For me it's Marlboros, (no flames I'll quit) What you smoking 



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jjessen

Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 285
Location: OR

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

I did not know that.  All I've seen in Ed's shop is the world's largest

C-frame, an industrial behemoth that must weigh 6 tons and can put a dainty

dimple six feet inside a sheet of 1/4" steel.  I exaggerate of course, but

it is big.  I'll get a picture of it this weekend, should Ed be around.  



John J



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mike(at)cleavelandtool.co
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:46 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

Cleaveland (that's me) sells them at the following link.



https://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/products.asp?dept=52



In the order of most used yokes there is the 3", 2.5" Flange (longeron), and

4" thin nose.  People like the 4" thin because you can reach in a little

further with it and still have the thin nose for other tight areas.



Our adjustable set holder will work with all of the yokes where others only

work with the 1" thick base yokes.  Ours also has a 32 pitch thread in the

ram so if you switch from a -3.5 to a -4 rivet it is just a half turn.  No

measuring needed.



We will match the competitions price as long as it is the exact same item &

quality.

Mike Lauritsen

Cleaveland Aircraft Tool

2225 First St. 

Boone, Iowa 50036

515-432-6794

mike(at)cleavelandtool.com

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jjessen

Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 285
Location: OR

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:46 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

I also use the 4" with the adjustable set.  Works okay for me.  



John J

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LessDragProd(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 6:59 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

It's good to hear that someone else needed the large economy size pneumatic  squeezer.

  

 We just finished squeezing the 3/16" rivets in an RV-4 spar.  No  problem.

  

 With the large squeezer, I oversqueezed a dimple on a test piece of  aluminum, once.  The dimple came out fine.  However, the material  around the dimple was thinner.

 I seem to recall that the transition from dimple to countersinking in  aluminum is 0.040 material.  Anyone have different data?

  

 Jim Ayers

  

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I    did not know that.  All I've seen in Ed's shop is the world's    largest

C-frame, an industrial behemoth that must weigh 6 tons and can put    a dainty

dimple six feet inside a sheet of 1/4" steel.  I exaggerate    of course, but

it is big.  I'll get a picture of it this weekend,    should Ed be around.  



John J



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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:02 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

I had a hand squeezer from Avery, and loved it, and had great results.

Unfortunately for my check book, a close friend went on vacation and

loaned me his pneumatic squeezer from Avery, and I feel in love with it.

He had to pry it out of my hands when he got back. My wife ordered me

one for a present and included several yokes with it, the 4" no hole, a

standard 3", and the longeron yoke. The two I use most are the 4"

no-hole, and the longeron. I have the adjustable set and have used it

with all of the yokes and it works great. I highly recommend Avery, both

for the quality and for their customer service. I bent the adjustable

set, because of something I did, and they replaced it for no charge.

They are also competitive on their pricing, if you find it elsewhere

cheaper, just call them on the phone and they will work with you.

Dan Lloyd

40269 

RV10E N289DT (Reserved) 

 



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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 7:09 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

Weird...I wonder if there's something different about your

yoke or squeezer.  Oh well.



As for me, I only smoke when I'm on fire...which seems

to happen with a strange regularity when I'm around

bonfires. 



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Rick wrote:

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 My 4" no hole hardly ever got used mainly because you had to use

 washers/shims. When it was needed it was NEEDED I'll say that!  My

 adjustable set worked great on the 2 & 3" yokes.

 

 For me it's Marlboros, (no flames I'll quit) What you smoking

capsteve

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 111
Location: NIAGARA FALLS NY

Posted: Wed Sep 13, 2006 5:08 pm Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

Absolutely a must have, IMO. Nothing can give a consistently driven rivet

like a pneumatic squeezer with an adjustable set. I use it on every rivet I

can reach. 90% of the time I leave the longeron head in. I also use it for

dimpling of ribs and stingers and anything I can get at. I have a double ram

squeezer that’s capable of up to -6 rivets. It’s a bit heavy and I wished I

had bought the single ram lighter version. I don’t think I've used it on

anything larger than a -4. 

Steve

40205



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 Anybody using one of these? Best size, type of yokes? Tool vendor source?



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jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.c
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Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:13 am Post subject: C Type Pneumatic Rivet Squeezer

I also highly recommend getting a foot pedal control for it. It is real

handy to clamp the squeezer to a bench and use two hands to move a larger

part of skin through it. Go mine from Cleveland and am very happy with it.



John Testement

jwt(at)roadmapscoaching.com

40321

Richmond, VA

Finish kit - wheel fairings, cowl prep



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