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				|  Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Radium |   |  
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				| Here is an update on  what is behind the radium in the instruments stories in the news.  Pretty  scary, but not because of the radium 
 
 http://www.avweb.com/news/columns/191377-1.html
 
 
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		| gus.fraser(at)gs.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject: Radium |   |  
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				| Now listen guys Ira and I cant vote, even though we pay  taxes (no tax without rep' and all that) how can you let this BS happen  ?
 I think I am going to go and throw some tea in the harbor  !, Oh and they are not getting their hands on my airplane, out of my cold dead  hands !
 
 Gus
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 6:55 pm    Post subject: Radium |   |  
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				| Ira Saligman wrote:
 So, when does one begin to fight back? I mean *really* fight back?
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				|  Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2006 8:35 am    Post subject: Radium |   |  
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				| Add to this series of horrific Bureaucratic  bullying the fact that we are now in the process of fighting a huge conglomerate  of energy companies backed by the U.S. Government here in Utah.
 Why? Because they want to import hundreds of  thousands of pounds of nuclear waste from not only other states, but from Japan  to store it 60 miles upwind of Salt Lake City, Utah. It's all obviously pork  belly politics and payoffs.
 
 What makes it worse is the fact that these storage  facilities aren't exactly well contained or secure. This also makes our City a  more attractive site for potential terrorist activity.
 
 They also want to transport it through our  populated areas on a regular basis via rail line and truck.
 
 The good news is that there has been quite a public  outcry here and at least our local politicians have changed their tune. Since  the Feds. are all for the energy companies making lots of money importing  this stuff and storing it in our back yard, we're refusing the right to build  the rail lines necessary to do this over other lands.
 
 Point being.  We must pick our battles  carefully, because the ones that we pick, we must be determined to win at all  costs. In order to do this we must band together as a large and powerful group  and communicate. I think that we have that through AOPA, the EAA,  etc.
 
 Hopefully, the victims of this radon fiasco can use  some of this in support of their cases. Can we take up a collection (all groups)  for their legal defense fund?
 
 Fraternally, - Val
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 3:43 pm    Post subject: Radium |   |  
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				| Where they really want to put it IS well-contained  and secure, namely deep underground in what was a fairly useless piece of desert  in Nevada.  It was fairly useless until the above ground nuclear  detonations of the 50s;  It's now quite thoroughly useless.
 The federal government is legally obligated to take  posession of the commercial waste but they are at least 20 years behind behind  schedule and still being delayed by pointless legal challenges based in more on  emotion than science or engineering- as is your objection.  If they had it,  they would no doubt take as good of care of it as they did the military  waste.  That was a tongue in cheek comment.  Hanford, Rocky Flats,  Paducah, and West Valley are huge messes.
 
 The proposed site, you failed to mention, is on the  Goshute reservation.  Like all indian reservations, it is a sovereign land  of the indians (held in trust by the US government).  What Utah thinks  about the uses of indian land has as much relevancy as what Utah thinks about  the uses Lithuanians choose for their land.
 
 In any event the solution to your problem is to get  Yucca mountain repository open.
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				|  Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:36 am    Post subject: Radium |   |  
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				|      Yep, and the self  appointed representative of the Goshutes who negotiated this with the  Energy Conglomerate is now up on Corruption Charges for taking huge  kickbacks.
 The Goshutes are getting very little. You are right  about Yucca Valley. Another worry is this sites close proximity to all of the  other biological and chemical warfare wastes that are also stored out  there.
 
 Ah well, if it isn't hurricanes, tornadoes,  earthquakes and floods it's always something somewhere. Let's just  forgeddaboudditt and go fly. ( I mean it.)
 
 - Val
 
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