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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 10:51 am    Post subject: Lurker Flies RV-10 Reply with quote

I have been lurking on the Yahoo and Matronix RV-10 lists for two years...couldn't bring myself to commit $100K+ without ever flying an RV.

Yesterday I had the chance to fly N220RV with Mike Seager in the right seat. I can sum up the experience with what I said to Mike at the end of the flight...I gotta get me one of these!

I thought perhaps the thousands of other lurkers out there might appreciate the observations of this ex-lurker.

I am a 300 hour instrument pilot, current but pretty rusty from not flying much over the past few years. Even so, after an hour with Mike I felt pretty comfortable in the 10, and the five landings I made were not bad, certainly better than my average landing in a spam can. One was in a 12 knot crosswind..."right rudder, right rudder, MORE right rudder". Hey, I said I was rusty. Other observations:

Lots of power, even with the 210 hp in 220RV. The 260 hp must be a rocket.

Much faster than the Cessna's and Pipers I have been flying...170 mph at 10 gph at 2500 msl was one of the datapoints I remember.

Stick vs. yoke a non-issue after five minutes. My only stick time was in a super cub.

Stalls at all the flap and power settings were slight nose drops and slight buffet...non-events actually. No wing drop at all.

220RV has electric pitch and roll trim on the stick coolie hat. You are going to love electric trim.

Even though I had a few hours in aircraft with steering by differential braking, this takes some practice to steer precisely.

Landings procedures in the RV-10 are different than spam cans, and 20 knots faster than the Cessna's and Pipers I have been flying. Not harder, just different than you might be used to. I would not advise flying the RV-10 for the first time without some transition training, even if you have thousands of hours. This is my opinion with regard to safety, not insurance requirements, your mileage may vary. Mike Seager is an excellent source for transition training; his website is http://www.rvshirtsnmore.com

There were several pilots taking transition training from Mike prior to first flights. Thank you for taking the time to answer my endless questions. Also, thanks to John McMahon for setting up the training in Portland, TN.

This airplane is responsive yet stable, a fast load hauler yet easy to fly. Fairly roomy inside yet economical. It is hard to believe you can get all these features in one airplane.

Lastly, demo flights in the RV-10 cost between $100K and $150K, depending on your engine and panel selections.

Steve Roberts
Alpharetta, GA
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:01 pm    Post subject: Lurker Flies RV-10 Reply with quote

Steve,

Was that 170 mph IAS (indicated air speed) or TAS (true airspeed)?

Thanks
Ed
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Steven Roberts wrote:
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I have been lurking on the Yahoo and Matronix RV-10 lists for two
years...couldn't bring myself to commit $100K+ without ever flying an RV.

Yesterday I had the chance to fly N220RV with Mike Seager in the right
seat. I can sum up the experience with what I said to Mike at the end
of the flight...I gotta get me one of these!

I thought perhaps the thousands of other lurkers out there might
appreciate the observations of this ex-lurker.

I am a 300 hour instrument pilot, current but pretty rusty from not
flying much over the past few years. Even so, after an hour with Mike
I felt pretty comfortable in the 10, and the five landings I made were
not bad, certainly better than my average landing in a spam can. One
was in a 12 knot crosswind..."right rudder, right rudder, MORE right
rudder". Hey, I said I was rusty. Other observations:

Lots of power, even with the 210 hp in 220RV. The 260 hp must be a
rocket.

Much faster than the Cessna's and Pipers I have been flying...170 mph
at 10 gph at 2500 msl was one of the datapoints I remember.

Stick vs. yoke a non-issue after five minutes. My only stick time was
in a super cub.

Stalls at all the flap and power settings were slight nose drops and
slight buffet...non-events actually. No wing drop at all.

220RV has electric pitch and roll trim on the stick coolie hat. You
are going to love electric trim.

Even though I had a few hours in aircraft with steering by
differential braking, this takes some practice to steer precisely.

Landings procedures in the RV-10 are different than spam cans, and 20
knots faster than the Cessna's and Pipers I have been flying. Not
harder, just different than you might be used to. I would not advise
flying the RV-10 for the first time without some transition training,
even if you have thousands of hours. This is my opinion with regard
to safety, not insurance requirements, your mileage may vary. Mike
Seager is an excellent source for transition training; his website is
http://www.rvshirtsnmore.com

There were several pilots taking transition training from Mike prior
to first flights. Thank you for taking the time to answer my endless
questions. Also, thanks to John McMahon for setting up the training
in Portland, TN.

This airplane is responsive yet stable, a fast load hauler yet easy to
fly. Fairly roomy inside yet economical. It is hard to believe you
can get all these features in one airplane.

Lastly, demo flights in the RV-10 cost between $100K and $150K,
depending on your engine and panel selections.

Steve Roberts
Alpharetta, GA
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:21 pm    Post subject: Lurker Flies RV-10 Reply with quote

Ed,

That was 170 mph indicated. I think MP/RPM was around 23-24 squared, and we
were 2500 msl. As I recall Mike said you could lean to 8-9 gph and still
get 165-170 mph at higher altitudes with the four banger. They will run the
Lycoming lean of peak but not the Continental. The 220RV airspeed indicator
is in mph.

Steve

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Steve,

Was that 170 mph IAS (indicated air speed) or TAS (true airspeed)?

Thanks
Ed
#40525

Steven Roberts wrote:
> I have been lurking on the Yahoo and Matronix RV-10 lists for two
> years...couldn't bring myself to commit $100K+ without ever flying an RV.
> Yesterday I had the chance to fly N220RV with Mike Seager in the right
> seat. I can sum up the experience with what I said to Mike at the end of
> the flight...I gotta get me one of these!
> I thought perhaps the thousands of other lurkers out there might
> appreciate the observations of this ex-lurker.
> I am a 300 hour instrument pilot, current but pretty rusty from not
> flying much over the past few years. Even so, after an hour with Mike I
> felt pretty comfortable in the 10, and the five landings I made were not
> bad, certainly better than my average landing in a spam can. One was in
> a 12 knot crosswind..."right rudder, right rudder, MORE right rudder".
> Hey, I said I was rusty. Other observations: Lots of power, even with
> the 210 hp in 220RV. The 260 hp must be a rocket.
> Much faster than the Cessna's and Pipers I have been flying...170 mph at
> 10 gph at 2500 msl was one of the datapoints I remember.
> Stick vs. yoke a non-issue after five minutes. My only stick time was
> in a super cub.
> Stalls at all the flap and power settings were slight nose drops and
> slight buffet...non-events actually. No wing drop at all. 220RV has
> electric pitch and roll trim on the stick coolie hat. You are going to
> love electric trim.
> Even though I had a few hours in aircraft with steering by differential
> braking, this takes some practice to steer precisely.
> Landings procedures in the RV-10 are different than spam cans, and 20
> knots faster than the Cessna's and Pipers I have been flying. Not
> harder, just different than you might be used to. I would not advise
> flying the RV-10 for the first time without some transition training,
> even if you have thousands of hours. This is my opinion with regard to
> safety, not insurance requirements, your mileage may vary. Mike Seager
> is an excellent source for transition training; his website is
> http://www.rvshirtsnmore.com
> There were several pilots taking transition training from Mike prior to
> first flights. Thank you for taking the time to answer my endless
> questions. Also, thanks to John McMahon for setting up the training in
> Portland, TN.
> This airplane is responsive yet stable, a fast load hauler yet easy to
> fly. Fairly roomy inside yet economical. It is hard to believe you can
> get all these features in one airplane.
> Lastly, demo flights in the RV-10 cost between $100K and $150K,
> depending on your engine and panel selections.
> Steve Roberts Alpharetta, GA
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:37 pm    Post subject: Lurker Flies RV-10 Reply with quote

I don't think either engine is a 4-banger, but I may be wrong.

John J

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:53 pm    Post subject: Lurker Flies RV-10 Reply with quote

John,

Your right, I had it mixed up with the Lycoming. The Lycoming IO-360 is 4
cylinders, the Continental IO-360 is 6 cylinders.

Steve

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:32 pm    Post subject: Lurker Flies RV-10 Reply with quote

Steve,

It was great chatting with you yesterday! I warned you that it was
gonna cost you more than the $155/hr advertised! Hope to see you join
the ranks soon...

Brian

http://www.mykitlog.com/rv10builder


Steven Roberts wrote:
Quote:
I have been lurking on the Yahoo and Matronix RV-10 lists for two
years...couldn't bring myself to commit $100K+ without ever flying an RV.

Yesterday I had the chance to fly N220RV with Mike Seager in the right
seat. I can sum up the experience with what I said to Mike at the end
of the flight...I gotta get me one of these!

I thought perhaps the thousands of other lurkers out there might
appreciate the observations of this ex-lurker.

I am a 300 hour instrument pilot, current but pretty rusty from not
flying much over the past few years. Even so, after an hour with Mike
I felt pretty comfortable in the 10, and the five landings I made were
not bad, certainly better than my average landing in a spam can. One
was in a 12 knot crosswind..."right rudder, right rudder, MORE right
rudder". Hey, I said I was rusty. Other observations:

Lots of power, even with the 210 hp in 220RV. The 260 hp must be a
rocket.

Much faster than the Cessna's and Pipers I have been flying...170 mph
at 10 gph at 2500 msl was one of the datapoints I remember.

Stick vs. yoke a non-issue after five minutes. My only stick time was
in a super cub.

Stalls at all the flap and power settings were slight nose drops and
slight buffet...non-events actually. No wing drop at all.

220RV has electric pitch and roll trim on the stick coolie hat. You
are going to love electric trim.

Even though I had a few hours in aircraft with steering by
differential braking, this takes some practice to steer precisely.

Landings procedures in the RV-10 are different than spam cans, and 20
knots faster than the Cessna's and Pipers I have been flying. Not
harder, just different than you might be used to. I would not advise
flying the RV-10 for the first time without some transition training,
even if you have thousands of hours. This is my opinion with regard
to safety, not insurance requirements, your mileage may vary. Mike
Seager is an excellent source for transition training; his website is
http://www.rvshirtsnmore.com

There were several pilots taking transition training from Mike prior
to first flights. Thank you for taking the time to answer my endless
questions. Also, thanks to John McMahon for setting up the training
in Portland, TN.

This airplane is responsive yet stable, a fast load hauler yet easy to
fly. Fairly roomy inside yet economical. It is hard to believe you
can get all these features in one airplane.

Lastly, demo flights in the RV-10 cost between $100K and $150K,
depending on your engine and panel selections.

Steve Roberts
Alpharetta, GA
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