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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1706
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:41 am Post subject: AW: Access to tires for air

I wasn't questioning airline policy of using nitrogen. I was  

questioning policy that your first post said a tire was "thrown away"  

if accidently filled with air. Obviously you have now revised that to  

dismount and remount.

Like Skydrol, nitrogen has its place in turbine aircraft. For piston  

aircraft you will do yourself a lot more of a favor to put a drier on  

your compressor and frequently drain the tank than having a compressed  

bottle of nitrogen around, that has no use other than airing up tires.  

Having that tank in your hangar is more of a hazard than any benefit  

to the tires. It isn't about cost or cutting corners.

Just because the airlines do it doesn't mean that GA and experimentals  

need to follow their rigid and moribund path. Most airlines don't have  

a glass display that the pilot can monitor his progress on an airport  

taxiway..childs play for any good electronic flight bag that any GA  

pilot can use, such as a Garmin 496 or some of your built in glass  

panels. 49 people paid the ultimate price because airlines can't get  

avionics advances approved without a gazillion dollars and years of  

FAA lack of decision making.

Airlines also employ a lot of uncertified folks working on their  

planes under supervision, so they can't allow any flexibility in  

thinking, just like the military.

KM

A&P/IA



Quoting "John W. Cox" <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com>:



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		   Not going to explain the Air Carrier policy.  When air is installed   

 (by accident of course).  Tire is required to be dismounted and   

 returned for safety inspection.  It is replaced with a correctly   

 filled tire. > Kelly, may you fly boldly, long and safe.  I just  

 thought there was  value in the points made.  Sorry for the bandwidth.

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KiloPapa

Joined: 24 May 2006
Posts: 142
Location: Pearblossom, CA

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 5:24 pm Post subject: AW: Access to tires for air

Your comment referring to the "49 people (who) paid

 	  Quote: 	
		  the ultimate price" was out of line if it was regarding the

accident of only a couple of days ago.  A "glass panel" is
	


no

excuse for not looking out the window.



Kevin

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----- Original Message Follows -----

From: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com>

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: AW: Access to tires for air

Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:41:21 -0700



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<kellym(at)aviating.com>



I wasn't questioning airline policy of using nitrogen. I

was   questioning policy that your first post said a tire

was "thrown away"   if accidently filled with air.

Obviously you have now revised that to   dismount and

remount. Like Skydrol, nitrogen has its place in turbine

aircraft. For piston   aircraft you will do yourself a lot

more of a favor to put a drier on   your compressor and

frequently drain the tank than having a compressed   bottle

of nitrogen around, that has no use other than airing up

tires.   Having that tank in your hangar is more of a

hazard than any benefit   to the tires. It isn't about cost

or cutting corners. Just because the airlines do it doesn't

mean that GA and experimentals   need to follow their rigid

and moribund path. Most airlines don't have   a glass

display that the pilot can monitor his progress on an

airport   taxiway..childs play for any good electronic

flight bag that any GA   pilot can use, such as a Garmin

496 or some of your built in glass   panels. 49 people paid

the ultimate price because airlines can't get   avionics

advances approved without a gazillion dollars and years of 

FAA lack of decision making.

Airlines also employ a lot of uncertified folks working on

their   planes under supervision, so they can't allow any

flexibility in   thinking, just like the military.

KM

A&P/IA



Quoting "John W. Cox" <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com>:



> Not going to explain the Air Carrier policy.  When air is

> installed    (by accident of course).  Tire is required

> to be dismounted and    returned for safety inspection. 

> It is replaced with a correctly    filled tire. > Kelly,

> may you fly boldly, long and safe.  I just   thought

there was  value in the points made.  Sorry for the

>bandwidth. 



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armywrights(at)adelphia.n
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Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 6:15 pm Post subject: AW: Access to tires for air

Kelly, you're fairly new to the list.  What's your builder number?

Wondering what we're up to now...

Rob Wright

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Riveting Bottom Wing Skins

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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1706
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 7:25 pm Post subject: AW: Access to tires for air

Yet to be determined. I'm learning from all you folks before I commit to 

start. Hoping to get a test flight at Copperstate flyin. I've been 

lurking for probably 3-4 months.



Rob Wright wrote:

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 Kelly, you're fairly new to the list.  What's your builder number?

 Wondering what we're up to now...

 

 

 Rob Wright

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 Riveting Bottom Wing Skins

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