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cpayne(at)joimail.com
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 2:49 pm Post subject: FL180

ViperDoc wrote:

 >Craig,

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		  You really do not want to start this. I know a YAK-52 driver that you meet at Red

Air who has had his stock 52 at FL200.

 >

 Certainly I want to start this! Sharpens the edge for the coming fray! I can Best the Boast of any man with a beer in my hand! 

 The only problem with a Yak-52 with long-range tanks at altitude is that it's still a Yak-52. No speed. Even at a lowly altitude of 11500 without Ox, I see 160kts true...with a stock (almost) M-14P, more if I go lower and leave the money levers forward. Looking at the "Super Yak-18T" specs (400hp), it's claimed that a cruise at 17,000 is doable to get over the Alps with a healthy margin.

 Most of my "alps" are getting over the hills of NW Georgia when the scud lies low. OTOH, even with a stock CJ, I didn't have a problem with either the Sierras or the Rockies. (They were good days though)

 Craig Payne

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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject: FL180

Craig,

  Yeah,but an L-39 is another story'. : )

  I found a couple "restored" for the cost of one of those souped up CJ-6A's you be boasting of.That is per a/c of course. Hum... YAK-50 or L-39??? Or neither...Fly cheap and low or high and fast. It all comes back to $'s out the tailpipe and the FAA restrictions. So for now, its the 52 for me. I'll save the high and fast for the Viper!. 

  So you are telling me you can sprint out to 160. Well you can run. But can you turn? And with that we are back to the extolling the virtues of our selected steads. Not to beat a dead horse.; -))

  So, what you are saying is if you want a XC bird, then buy as CJ 6a!  Now if you want to loop and turn like a , then the YAK -52 would be the bird! Or maybe a "nifty 50" is the real quickie in this little ditty!

 Now we are back to its all about performance! And, it would appear the "nifty 5O" is the real fighter in this mea lie! Now the 50 'it'll out perform a  "51" initially! And where is the CJ in this fray? Cruising along on those wings so long.

  

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jon(at)email.net
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Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: FL180

I took the CJ up to 18,000 one time... it was still climbing good when the

controller suggested that I was going to need a clearance to keep going.



Jon



[quote] Craig,

  Yeah,but an L-39 is another story'. : )

  I found a couple "restored" for the cost of one of those souped up

 CJ-6A's you be boasting of.That is per a/c of course. Hum... YAK-50 or

 L-39??? Or neither...Fly cheap and low or high and fast. It all comes

 back to $'s out the tailpipe and the FAA restrictions. So for now, its

 the 52 for me. I'll save the high and fast for the Viper!.

  So you are telling me you can sprint out to 160. Well you can run. But

 can you turn? And with that we are back to the extolling the virtues of

 our selected steads. Not to beat a dead horse.; -))

  So, what you are saying is if you want a XC bird, then buy as CJ 6a!  Now

 if you want to loop and turn like a , then the YAK -52 would be the bird!

 Or maybe a "nifty 50" is the real quickie in this little ditty!

 Now we are back to its all about performance! And, it would appear the

 "nifty 5O" is the real fighter in this mea lie! Now the 50 'it'll out

 perform a  "51" initially! And where is the CJ in this fray? Cruising

 along on those wings so long.



  DVD

 DVD



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