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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 12:32 am    Post subject: having fun |   |  
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				| Guys I was wondering if you can help me. We have this sort of informal aerobatics club over here in quaint old England and try as hard as we can we just can't get the damn planes to fly straight and level for hours on end. As you guys in the US seem to have this down I was wondering if you might give us some pointers. We are obviously so crap at doing this by ourselves so we really need your help.  
 Just to show you how bad things have got I have attached a video of our ridiculously piss poor performance.
 
 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-339593460784738519  (this link ends in “9”)
 
 Please help we are desperate.
 
 I have seen your video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2772544527369613198 (this link ends in “8”) apart from Bud Granley it seams to depict a lot of aircraft being polished, taxiing, and talk about flying, OK there are a few nice shots of solo a/c also. One thing we cant muster in UK is the L-39’s you beat us there, cheap gas I guess. Nice to see them flying.
 
 Oh and if we do really really well can you see your way clear to letting us have one or two of those cute little patches that you have ?
 
 Thanks in advance Mark Jefferies
 PPFP
 
 Piss
 Poor
 Formation
 Pilot
 
 Ps, before someone get realy hot under the collar don't take me to seriously
 
 
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		| Frank 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 3:51 am    Post subject: having fun |   |  
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				| Nice  video, Mark. Liked the music too and it fits with the  aircraft. Strikes me as a celebration of flight in honor of our  Russian friends who designed the aircraft.
 Frank
 
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		| gus.fraser(at)gs.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 5:52 am    Post subject: having fun |   |  
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				| I am just waiting for the Chang response, this should be  awesome.
 Gus
 
 
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 Nice    video, Mark. Liked the music too and it fits with the    aircraft. Strikes me as a celebration of flight in honor of our    Russian friends who designed the aircraft.
 
 Frank
 
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		| L39parts(at)hotmail.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 6:42 am    Post subject: having fun |   |  
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				| First, you'll need to go to a bigger country.   A straight line from Lands End to Berkwick-upon-Tweed is less than 400 miles and  even then you have to jog east around the Cheviot to stay in England.   A good many 400 mile flights in the US don't even get us to a  different state.  If we start in the dead center of the US we can do  that at least 2 more times before dealing with Customs and  Immigration.  If we start from a corner...  Good thing gas is cheap  here.  
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		| pilling.k(at)btconnect.co Guest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:16 am    Post subject: having fun |   |  
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				| Pleased you accepted Mark's  tongue-in-cheek  humour in the spirit intended. Some of our US friends have  failed to translate UK humour in times past.....no names mentioned  Jim. 
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 kp
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		| brian 
 
  
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:25 am    Post subject: having fun |   |  
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				| Mark Jefferies YAK Uk wrote:
  	  | Quote: |  	  | Guys I was wondering if you can help me. We have this sort of informal aerobatics club over here in quaint old England and try as hard as we
 can we just can't get the damn planes to fly straight and level for
 hours on end. As you guys in the US seem to have this down I was
 wondering if you might give us some pointers. We are obviously so crap
 at doing this by ourselves so we really need your help.
 
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 Actually, old man, you don't need to. You see, we need to be able to fly
 for hours and hours and hours and hours straight and level because our
 country is so starkly, uncomprehendingly, unimaginably *huge*! Why just
 two weeks ago I had to fly straight-and-level for 13 hours in an
 airplane that goes 170 kts to get from one side to the other.
 
 You, on the other hand, live in a more (ahem) "modestly" sized country.
 {sigh} Let's face it, your country is barely bigger than your aerobatic
 box. You don't *need* to fly straight and level for hours on end. Heck,
 if you flew for more than 30 minutes in any one direction you would have
 to start speaking French, Dutch, German, Welsh, Scottish, or Irish. (I
 know, technically the Scots and the Irish speak English but they only
 tell you that to fool you.)
 
 We understand and applaud your preoccupation with aerobatics. You need
 that capability to keep your aircraft within your own borders. And a
 fine job you do of it too! Keep up the good work!
 
 So relax. Go flying. Take fifteen minutes to get reacquainted with your
 country's geography, what there is of it, and then nip on down to the
 pub for a pint. Treat yourself to a pasty in the knowledge of a job well
 done!
 
 By the way, bloody good show!
 
 Stiff upper lip and all that!
 
 
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 PPS: don't take me too seriously either.
   
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 brian-yak at lloyd dot com          Folsom, CA 95630
 +1.916.367.2131 (voice)             +1.270.912.0788 (fax)
 
 I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
 - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
 
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 - Antoine de Saint-Exupery
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: having fun |   |  
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				| Lands End is for Tourists and  Berwick-upon-Tweed is for those that know no better.
 Fly South and then East and  take in the UK, France, Belgium, Germany, Denmark(minor track deviation)Germany  again ( former East Germany), a fragment of Russia, then Poland  and finally Lithuania....8 countries and languages in a single  day......even in a Yak.....a cultural extravaganza ! Awesome.
 
 At least Marks thread  interrupts the Nitrogen thread overload
 
 kp
 
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 7:37 am    Post subject: having fun |   |  
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				| Henry Kissenger and Al Haigh  could have learned a thing or two from Mark don't you all agree ?
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 9:26 am    Post subject: having fun |   |  
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				| Hey, we have that right here in the colonies....without customs to deal with! Well maybe that has been fixed now with the EU thing.
We can go from near "proper English of the NE, southern, Mid Western, Chinese, Viet Namese, Spanish, and  EBONICS without even leaving the contentinat bounders of the Colonies!
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject: having fun |   |  
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				| Laughed out loud at this post !
 Smile
 
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				|  Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2006 11:00 am    Post subject: having fun |   |  
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				| Tommy..was he that littl' %$(at)#'r?
Doc
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 From: Kevin Pilling <pilling.k(at)btconnect.com>
 To: <yak-list(at)matronics.com>
 Date: 1/19/2006 12:18:04 PM
 Subject: Re: having fun
 
 
 
 Laughed out loud at this post !
 
 Smile
 
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		| barry(at)flyredstar.org Guest
 
 
 
 
 
 
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				|  Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 7:12 am    Post subject: having fun |   |  
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				| On Jan 19, 2006, at 11:59 PM, Gus wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | just think what we would have done with this place
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 You tried that once already....I think had you succeeded most of us
 west of Louisiana would be under Vincente Fox's rule!!!!  <phew> God
 Bless George Washington and the Founding Fathers.  Just think about how
 complicated our flying machines would all be had they not succeeded!
 Ever seen the insides of a Spitfire, Sea Fury, or Gnat?
 GEEESSH!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 Barry
 
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