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bcondrey
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 7:42 am Post subject: OSH Update 7/28/06 |
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Not much to say after the engine update post from last night. We have had some new arrivals camping at RV-10 HQ so I took a new picture of that. Dan Lloyd is in the popup camper between the motor homes and Tim Olson's tent is in the rear half of that site. Adrian Moses along with a couple of friends are in tents on the other side of Gary's motorhome. Total count right now is at 11 customer built RV-10s: Recent arrivals include the Monarch (picture attached), Noel Simmons N325HP and Jon Stewart's. There may be one more but I haven't seen it. Doesn't look like we'll make John Cox's prediction of 20.
Bob
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Vern(at)teclabsinc.com Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 8:24 am Post subject: OSH Update 7/28/06 |
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Hi Bob,
How about an update on N325HP, did Noel use a parallel valve or angled
valve engine to get 325 hp? What are the performance numbers for the
Catto prop?
Thanks,
Vern Smith (#40324)
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bcondrey
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 9:40 am Post subject: OSH Update 7/28/06 |
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It's a parallel valve IO-540 built up be Performance Aero Engines. I've got a couple of pictures of that I'll post later today or in the AM. He wasn't over by the plane so I don't know much more.
Bob
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 11:12 am Post subject: OSH Update 7/28/06 |
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Thanks for the information! This plane has always intrigued me since I
first saw it mentioned on the group list. I've always wondered how the
fixed pitch Catto compares to the Hartzell prop.
Vern (#40324)
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AV8ORJWC
Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 1149 Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:21 pm Post subject: OSH Update 7/28/06 |
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Don't take the HP number to the bank till a Barrett verified engine run is Dyno'ed and documented. The number is not real (Its called a Hollywood or California fudge factor and can change as quick as the new owner peals the vinyl N number off and buys the aircraft now for SALE. Do tell us why Noel.
John Cox
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Sent: Fri 7/28/2006 10:40 AM
It's a parallel valve IO-540 built up be Performance Aero Engines. I've got a couple of pictures of that I'll post later today or in the AM. He wasn't over by the plane so I don't know much more.
Bob
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AV8ORJWC
Joined: 13 Jul 2006 Posts: 1149 Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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Posted: Fri Jul 28, 2006 6:26 pm Post subject: OSH Update 7/28/06 |
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I am eating my words as you read this and owe everyone a Cold One for the failure of the estimate. However there were three Atrocious RV-10s with poor workmanship which means its better to keep that number low until the quality of build QOB comes up to VANS standards. Many builders simply do not respond on this list.
Then again Vic, Debbie and Tim have shown how great this kit can turn out.
John Cox - KUAO on 24 hours
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Sent: Fri 7/28/2006 8:42 AM
Not much to say after the engine update post from last night. We have had some new arrivals camping at RV-10 HQ so I took a new picture of that. Dan Lloyd is in the popup camper between the motor homes and Tim Olson's tent is in the rear half of that site. Adrian Moses along with a couple of friends are in tents on the other side of Gary's motorhome. Total count right now is at 11 customer built RV-10s: Recent arrivals include the Monarch (picture attached), Noel Simmons N325HP and Jon Stewart's. There may be one more but I haven't seen it. Doesn't look like we'll make John Cox's prediction of 20.
Bob
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Tim(at)MyRV10.com Guest
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Posted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 4:18 pm Post subject: OSH Update 7/28/06 |
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Don't forget Paul and Jesse who's planes both left me feeling
very comfortable with their workmanship. They both looked
very nice.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
John W. Cox wrote:
Quote: | I am eating my words as you read this and owe everyone a Cold One for
the failure of the estimate. However there were three Atrocious
RV-10s with poor workmanship which means its better to keep that
number low until the quality of build QOB comes up to VANS standards.
Many builders simply do not respond on this list.
Then again Vic, Debbie and Tim have shown how great this kit can turn
out.
John Cox - KUAO on 24 hours
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Sent: Fri 7/28/2006 8:42 AM
<bob.condrey(at)baesystems.com>
Not much to say after the engine update post from last night. We
have had some new arrivals camping at RV-10 HQ so I took a new
picture of that. Dan Lloyd is in the popup camper between the motor
homes and Tim Olson's tent is in the rear half of that site. Adrian
Moses along with a couple of friends are in tents on the other side
of Gary's motorhome. Total count right now is at 11 customer built
RV-10s: Recent arrivals include the Monarch (picture attached), Noel
Simmons N325HP and Jon Stewart's. There may be one more but I
haven't seen it. Doesn't look like we'll make John Cox's prediction
of 20.
Bob
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jesse(at)itecusa.org Guest
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Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:33 pm Post subject: OSH Update 7/28/06 |
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I know this has been addressed, but I saw the engine, and without a turbo or
super high-compression pistons, I can't imagine getting 325HP out of a 260HP
engine. I can see getting as much as 290 or so from talking to Barrett, but
I think that number is truly bogus. If that was the case, why would you put
it behind a fixed pitch prop? Actually, the engine was very nice-looking,
with matching paint on several other things in the engine compartment. As
far as the quality of the plane, well, I guess I won't go there, but for
those who haven't gotten to this point yet, I would not recommend putting a
bead of caulk/proseal around the outside of the windows, and pop-rivets in
the leading edge of the fuel tank should probably be avoided as much as
possible.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
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C: 352-427-0285
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wayne.e(at)grandecom.net Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 2:45 am Post subject: OSH Update 7/28/06 |
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Hello Jessie,
Why do you say not to put proseal around the window to seal the gap there? I've had several people tell me they thought that's a good idea to stop the cracking that RV10 people are experiencing. One was a good painter who uses proseal to fill any gaps he finds on the plane.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
engine work
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jesse(at)itecusa.org Guest
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 5:52 am Post subject: OSH Update 7/28/06 |
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I don’t have a problem with Proseal being used, but when you have a bead of it around the windows on top of the paint (or instead of it) that looks like you smeared around with your fingers, it takes away from the appearance of quality.
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)
www.itecusa.org
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C: 352-427-0285
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Wayne Edgerton
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 6:44 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: OSH Update 7/28/06
Hello Jessie,
Why do you say not to put proseal around the window to seal the gap there? I've had several people tell me they thought that's a good idea to stop the cracking that RV10 people are experiencing. One was a good painter who uses proseal to fill any gaps he finds on the plane.
Wayne Edgerton #40336
engine work
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Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 6:13 am Post subject: OSH Update 7/28/06 |
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Proseal should take paint, so seal before you paint for a better looking job?
On 7/31/06, Jesse Saint <jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)> wrote:
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