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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 7:53 am    Post subject: Delphi Weatherpack Connectors Question Reply with quote

Greetings,



I seem to be a bit gender-confused when it comes to weatherpack terminals.



I have just realized that the nomenclature of the plastic connector housings
is referred to as a "tower" (long skinny thingy that inserts into the other
stationary thingy) and the other side is called a "shroud" (stationary
thingy that long skinny thingy gets inserted into).



There is also official terminology for the metal conductor part and that is
the "pin" and the "socket"



Forgive me as I am old-school so I ass-u-me-d from a cisgendered perspective
that the pin should be installed into the long skinny thingy (because it is
doing the movement and the insertion action) and the socket should be
installed into the stationary thingy (because the long skinny thingy gets
inserted into this device) however after researching online I discovered
that the "socket" should be installed into the "tower" and that the "pin"
should be installed into the "shroud". (Yikes.this subject is very
difficult to talk about in good company).



In operation it does prove that the socket when installed inside the tower
remains centered whereas if the pin is installed into the tower it will not
be centered and it will flop around and the two halves are very difficult to
"mate". [red faced embarrassed emoticon added for dramatic emphasis)



I bought the B0040CRUNO yellow handled hollow tip tool however the ID of the
hollow tip is 0.020 inches so this hollow tube is perfect for slipping over
the weather pack pins however the weather pack sockets have a thicker OD and
therefore the hollow tip of this tool does not slip over the socket.



https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0040CRUNO/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?ie
=UTF8
<https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0040CRUNO/ref=oh_aui_search_asin_title?i
e=UTF8&psc=1> &psc=1



I am using 18-24 AWG wire and the associated pins and sockets



Is there another tool available?



Do these yellow handled tools must come in different sizes or are they
gender specific?



THANKS FOR SETTING ME STRAIGHT BEFORE I VISIT THE RESTROOM AT TARGET


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 8:30 am    Post subject: Delphi Weatherpack Connectors Question Reply with quote

At 09:52 AM 2/4/2019, you wrote:
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Greetings,

I seem to be a bit gender-confused when it comes to weatherpack terminals.

check out this selection of videos:

https://tinyurl.com/y93ftj5h

and download this catalog:

https://tinyurl.com/yd5ozdcc





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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 9:00 am    Post subject: Delphi Weatherpack Connectors Question Reply with quote

Bob, 

Thanks for the quick response and information. Like in the video I installed the pins in the tower part of the connector and the pin will move around a little bit and not be completely centered and therefore connecting the two parts together can be problematic. 
After research online apparently the socket is supposed to be installed in the tower and the pin is supposed to be installed in the shroud. 
Here is a picture of the tool that I'm trying to use and it's ID is too narrow to fit over the 24-22 AWG socket. 

Thanks,

Bill Hunter


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 04, 2019 10:17 am    Post subject: Delphi Weatherpack Connectors Question Reply with quote

At 10:59 AM 2/4/2019, you wrote:
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Bob,

Thanks for the quick response and information. Like in the video I installed the pins in the tower part of the connector and the pin will move around a little bit and not be completely centered and therefore connecting the two parts together can be problematic.

After research online apparently the socket is supposed to be installed in the tower and the pin is supposed to be installed in the shroud.

Here is a picture of the tool that I'm trying to use and it's ID is too narrow to fit over the 24-22 AWG socket.

This style of pin-retention is common to a
constellation removable pin connector products.
Amp Mate-n-Lock connectors found their way
onto the single engine Cessnas in the 60's.

I can't speak to the WeatherPack connectors
specifically, I've not had occasion to
work with them. But it seems that any
tool that extracts male pins would
work with the female sockets.

The White Products catalog page 24 shows
only one part number for an extraction
tool.

[img]cid:7.1.0.9.0.20190204120635.05369bd0(at)aeroelectric.com.0[/img]

So I'm assuming that the T-3 tool is
designed to extract both types of pin.

I'm skeptical of the 0.020" measurement
you cited . . . those pins are much
larger . . . did you 'zero' the
caliper before making the measurement?

Measurements aside, the single tool
should work with both pins and
sockets. You may have the wrong
tool.



Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 6:29 am    Post subject: Delphi Weatherpack Connectors Question Reply with quote

At 10:59 AM 2/4/2019, you wrote:
Quote:
Bob,

Thanks for the quick response and information. Like in the video I installed the pins in the tower part of the connector and the pin will move around a little bit and not be completely centered and therefore connecting the two parts together can be problematic.

After research online apparently the socket is supposed to be installed in the tower and the pin is supposed to be installed in the shroud.

Here is a picture of the tool that I'm trying to use and it's ID is too narrow to fit over the 24-22 AWG socket.

This style of pin-retention is common to a
constellation removable pin connector products.
Amp Mate-n-Lock connectors found their way
onto the single engine Cessnas in the 60's.

I can't speak to the WeatherPack connectors
specifically, I've not had occasion to
work with them. But it seems that any
tool that extracts male pins would
work with the female sockets.

The White Products catalog page 24 shows
only one part number for an extraction
tool.

[img]cid:7.1.0.9.0.20190204120635.05369bd0(at)aeroelectric.com.0[/img]

So I'm assuming that the T-3 tool is
designed to extract both types of pin.

I'm skeptical of the 0.020" measurement
you cited . . . those pins are much
larger . . . did you 'zero' the
caliper before making the measurement?

Measurements aside, the single tool
should work with both pins and
sockets. You may have the wrong
tool.



Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:39 am    Post subject: Delphi Weatherpack Connectors Question Reply with quote

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So I did find the problemIt appears that the female socket was opened up a little bit whilst I was trying to ram the tower into the shroud and because the pin was not centered in the tower it tried to enter the socket a bit sideways and loostened up the socket wider than normal so I could not get the tool over the socket. The use of the correct combination of bad words plus the use of a magnifying glass head light and a small screwdriver did the trick!!!

Now my pin will easily insert into the socket and the connection is electric!!!

Excellent . . . details, details . . .
always those pesky details.

Fly comfortably!



Bob . . .


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