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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 4:17 pm    Post subject: Headliner before cabin cover riveting? Reply with quote

I am at point in the plans where it says to rivet the cabin cover on, but I was waiting till OSH to go see about interior upholstery (probably from Flightline). In the archives there is chat about installing the headliner before installing the cabin cover. Is putting the headliner in a big enough deal that I should wait before riveting the structure together, or just one of those things that is nice to do if you have the chance? (Sure would be nice to get the structures part of the project out of the way to move onto FWF and systems goodies.)

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 5:03 pm    Post subject: Headliner before cabin cover riveting? Reply with quote

It would be easiest to install the headliner before you put the canopy
on. Plan ahead though and don't glue the lower 2 or 3" and leave a
few inches extra that will go below the canopy top and trim it all
later. The only catch is, while it's easier to do the headliner
later, that will assume you have the interior cabin top painted
already in the non-covered areas. And some of those areas around the
doors may need to be filed down in the future to make the doors fit
better. So, you may end up with some rework around the doors on
your paint unless you either get lucky, or have it all together
enough to know your doors are all ready to go.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Dan Masys wrote:
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I am at point in the plans where it says to rivet the cabin cover on,
but I was waiting till OSH to go see about interior upholstery
(probably from Flightline). In the archives there is chat about
installing the headliner before installing the cabin cover. Is
putting the headliner in a big enough deal that I should wait before
riveting the structure together, or just one of those things that is
nice to do if you have the chance? (Sure would be nice to get the
structures part of the project out of the way to move onto FWF and
systems goodies.)

-Dan Masys #40448




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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 6:38 pm    Post subject: Headliner before cabin cover riveting? Reply with quote

Has anybody uncovered a way to finish off the edges of the headliner
where they meet the windows and other surfaces, so there's not just a
cut edge?

Deems

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It would be easiest to install the headliner before you put the canopy
on. Plan ahead though and don't glue the lower 2 or 3" and leave a
few inches extra that will go below the canopy top and trim it all
later. The only catch is, while it's easier to do the headliner
later, that will assume you have the interior cabin top painted
already in the non-covered areas. And some of those areas around the
doors may need to be filed down in the future to make the doors fit
better. So, you may end up with some rework around the doors on
your paint unless you either get lucky, or have it all together
enough to know your doors are all ready to go.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive
Dan Masys wrote:

>
>
> I am at point in the plans where it says to rivet the cabin cover on,
> but I was waiting till OSH to go see about interior upholstery
> (probably from Flightline). In the archives there is chat about
> installing the headliner before installing the cabin cover. Is
> putting the headliner in a big enough deal that I should wait before
> riveting the structure together, or just one of those things that is
> nice to do if you have the chance? (Sure would be nice to get the
> structures part of the project out of the way to move onto FWF and
> systems goodies.)
>
> -Dan Masys #40448

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:36 pm    Post subject: Headliner before cabin cover riveting? Reply with quote

I did mine after puting the canopy top on. It seems that you don't gain
much one way or the other. Regarding the edges, I sewed (yeah!) figure-8
cross-section molding strips and glue them in place using the same headline
material. Most folks just fold the edges under, including hundreds of
airplanes I looked at during one SNF.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:22 am    Post subject: Headliner before cabin cover riveting? Reply with quote

I believe Toni Sustare, the guy with the overhaed console, has or is building window trim pieces for the 10. I'm guessing he will be at Ashkosh this year, he was at Sun-N-Fun. I've gotten lucky, I hope, and found a custom car upholstery guy who also does planes and he will be building a frame around my windows to be covered.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:41 am    Post subject: Headliner before cabin cover riveting? Reply with quote

I bought a headliner that came with 1/4" of foam backing.  Cut and peeled away the foam backing near the edge about 1"  back, folded the fabric over and used a 3M L1300 (?) glue.  I am pretty happy with the look.
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On Jul 17, 2006, at 10:36 PM, Deems Davis wrote:
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net (deemsdavis(at)cox.net)>
Has anybody uncovered a way to finish off the edges of the headliner where they meet the windows and other surfaces, so there's not just a cut edge?
Deems
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com (Tim(at)MyRV10.com)>
It would be easiest to install the headliner before you put the canopy
on.  Plan ahead though and don't glue the lower 2 or 3" and leave a
few inches extra that will go below the canopy top and trim it all
later.   The only catch is, while it's easier to do the headliner
later, that will assume you have the interior cabin top painted
already in the non-covered areas.  And some of those areas around the
doors may need to be filed down in the future to make the doors fit
better.  So, you may end up with some rework around the doors on
your paint unless you either get lucky, or have it all together
enough to know your doors are all ready to go.


Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
do not archive


Dan Masys wrote:
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--> RV10-List message posted by: Dan Masys <dmasys(at)cox.net (dmasys(at)cox.net)>
I am at point in the plans where it says to rivet the cabin cover on,
but I was waiting till OSH to go see about interior upholstery
(probably from Flightline).  In the archives there is chat about
installing the headliner before installing the cabin cover.  Is
putting the headliner in a big enough deal that I should wait before
riveting the structure together, or just one of those things that is
nice to do if you have the chance?  (Sure would be nice to get the
structures part of the project out of the way to move onto FWF and
systems goodies.)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:46 am    Post subject: Headliner before cabin cover riveting? Reply with quote

My wife did our headliner and she used piping around the window frames and
edges. She glued in the piping (covered with the same headliner fabric)
around the windows and then folded the edge under and glued it up next to
the piping.

Russ Daves
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