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morgjj

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 24

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject: New Proseal from Vans

Anyone ordered the  new version of Proseal from Van's lately and found the dispenser on the  store?  I cannot locate one on there and Aircraft Spruce wants like $80 for  it, when it is nothing more than a small plunger caulk gun?   What  have others done?

  

 Thanks

 Jeff

  

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flysrv10(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 3:25 am Post subject: New Proseal from Vans

I have used a ziplock bag with a hole.  I have also found syringes

from fiberglass supply stores that come in handy.  You can store the

unused syringes in your freezer for later use.



On 6/25/06, Jeffery J. Morgan <jmorgan(at)compnetconcepts.com> wrote:

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 Anyone ordered the new version of Proseal from Van's lately and found the

 dispenser on the store?  I cannot locate one on there and Aircraft Spruce

 wants like $80 for it, when it is nothing more than a small plunger caulk

 gun?   What have others done?



 Thanks

 Jeff



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Rob Kermanj

jesse(at)itecusa.org
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:08 am Post subject: New Proseal from Vans

We just used a standard caulk gun.  It was a little tight, but it fit and worked great.  

     

Jesse Saint  

I-TEC, Inc.  

jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)  

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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeffery J. Morgan

 Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 10:58 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: New Proseal from Vans  

  

     

Anyone ordered the new version of Proseal from Van's lately and found the dispenser on the store?  I cannot locate one on there and Aircraft Spruce wants like $80 for it, when it is nothing more than a small plunger caulk gun?   What have others done?  

    

   

    

Thanks  

    

Jeff  

    

   

    

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Vern(at)teclabsinc.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:26 am Post subject: New Proseal from Vans

Hi Jeff,  

   

I found it under the “new products” section of Van’s web store. However, I’m going with the syringes and cake decorator bags.  

   

Vern  

   

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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeffery J. Morgan

 Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2006 7:58 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: New Proseal from Vans  

  

     

Anyone ordered the new version of Proseal from Van's lately and found the dispenser on the store?  I cannot locate one on there and Aircraft Spruce wants like $80 for it, when it is nothing more than a small plunger caulk gun?   What have others done?  

    

   

    

Thanks  

    

Jeff  

    

   

    

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LarryRosen

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 415
Location: Medford, NJ

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 6:27 am Post subject: New Proseal from Vans

Link here 

<http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1151330752-34-300&browse=tools&product=sealant-gun>

On Vans web store, Tank Sealant Dispenser, Part Number = TOOL SEALANT 

GUN for $17.00. Dispenser for tank and firewall sealant. Works with 

MC-236B1/2 and MC-CS-1900 sealant cartridges. A convenient and simple 

way to apply these sealants.



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mdoyle2(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:34 am Post subject: New Proseal from Vans

I used an inexpensive caulking gun. I had to reduce the diameter of the plunger a little on my belt sander. It cost a $1.95 and I threw it away insted of removing the cartridge and cleaning it up.

  

 Mike Doyle



 

 On 6/25/06, Jeffery J. Morgan <jmorgan(at)compnetconcepts.com (jmorgan(at)compnetconcepts.com)> wrote:  	  Quote: 	
		     Anyone ordered the new version of Proseal from Van's lately and found the dispenser on the store?  I cannot locate one on there and Aircraft Spruce wants like $80 for it, when it is nothing more than a small plunger caulk gun?   What have others done? 

  

 Thanks

 Jeff

  

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LIKE2LOOP(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:09 pm Post subject: New Proseal from Vans

In a message dated 6/26/2006 11:43:19 AM Eastern Standard Time,  mdoyle2(at)gmail.com writes:

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		  I used    an inexpensive caulking gun. 	


 

     I did the same and my caulk gun fit in the  new self mixing cartridge with no adjustments needed.  There was nothing on  the back end to clean up. I found a HUGE amount of waste doing the rudder this  way, as the entire tube gets mixed and then you only use a little.

  

     Is there a suitable substitute, like JB  Weld for the elevators and other parts that use proseal??? I dont want to use  anything that would cause corrosion for the trailing edge pieces. 

  

 For the fuel tank i will stick with the Proseal, and would  expect to finish a tube or two.

  

 Steve   

 

Stephen  Blank              RV-10 Builder #40499 / Cessna 170B flyer

766 SE River Lane

Port St. Lucie,  FL 34983



772-475-5556 cell - evenings and  weekends

johngoodman(at)earthlink.
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:30 pm Post subject: New Proseal from Vans

Jeff,

I noticed the same thing. I live about 2 miles from Aircraft Spruce in 

Peachtree City, so I drove over to get some. I showed them the Van's 

catalog and asked if they carried it. They gave me the exact same stuff 

that was in the picture. It's called ChemSeal - I think (I'm not home 

right now). It's basically a caulk tube. I know that I didn'[t pay $80 

for it, but I can't recall how much. Worked fine and the tube is in my 

freezer for future use.

John

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		   Anyone ordered the new version of Proseal from Van's lately and found

       the dispenser on the store?  I cannot locate one on there and 

 Aircraft

       Spruce wants like $80 for it, when it is nothing more than a 

 small

       plunger caulk gun?   What have others done?

Rick S.

Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 347
Location: Las Vegas

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 2:41 pm Post subject: New Proseal from Vans

Steve,

  

  

 You may want to reconsider the tubes for the tanks. I used two tubes, one for each baffle, the last step of building the tanks. Get the can and save yourself some time and money. I found that doing a few ribs at a time to be the perfect pace for the cure time involved. The tubes will cure before you can get all the ribs coated and riveted in place. By using the canned stuff you can do one rib at a time. Take your time and clean up a bit after each rib. Fresh proseal is much better to use than stuff that is about to kick off. I used large paper plates, small popscicle sticks to mix and large ones to apply. mix up an ounce (in weight) per rib. This give you enough to coat the flange and run a nice bead around the insdie after you rivet it in place. I was set on the tubes until I found out how much was being wasted. They have a place, just not economical or really any easier to use than the canned stuff mixed in small batches. Trust me, if you think your going to be neat and apply with surgical precision forget it. The first time you reach inside the tank to buck a rivet and your armpit and ribcage comes out smeared with proseal you'll see what I mean. Plus you'll need it to seal the firewall, NACA vents and other small areas in the fuselage.

  

 Rick S.

 40185

 Wiring

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johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com
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Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 4:07 pm Post subject: New Proseal from Vans

At the airline, we use between 6  to 15 – 6oz tubes of Proseal per day.  I will start scavenging empty ProSeal tubes  (with nozzles) and bring them to OSH.  You guys can have them.  They are great receptacles for hand mixed ProSeal.  They can also be used for RTV.  With either a$1.99 cheapo ratchet gun or a surplus pneumatic SEMCO gun at $20.00 you should all overcome this shortfall.  

   

Once the ProSeal sets, it can be pulled out of the cartridge and it can be reused – over and over and over.  

   

John Cox - $00.02  

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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of LIKE2LOOP(at)aol.com

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In a message dated 6/26/2006 11:43:19 AM Eastern Standard Time, mdoyle2(at)gmail.com writes:  

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I used an inexpensive caulking gun.   	
  

    

    I did the same and my caulk gun fit in the new self mixing cartridge with no adjustments needed.  There was nothing on the back end to clean up. I found a HUGE amount of waste doing the rudder this way, as the entire tube gets mixed and then you only use a little.  

    

   

    

    Is there a suitable substitute, like JB Weld for the elevators and other parts that use proseal??? I dont want to use anything that would cause corrosion for the trailing edge pieces.   

    

   

    

For the fuel tank i will stick with the Proseal, and would expect to finish a tube or two.  

    

   

    

Steve     

   

    



 Stephen Blank             RV-10 Builder #40499 / Cessna 170B flyer

   766 SE River Lane

 Port St. Lucie, FL 34983

 

 772-475-5556 cell - evenings and weekends

roy.debbie(at)cox.net
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:42 am Post subject: New Proseal from Vans

I used J B Weld on my rudder and it didn't hold despite roughing the  surface with steel wool then cleaning with acetone before clecoing  together.

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jack.lockamy(at)navy.mil
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:44 am Post subject: New Proseal from Vans

I recommend 3M Marine Adhesive 5200 Fast  Cure (2 hrs).  It is white and only approx. $6 for an 8-ounce tube.   Should be enough for all the trailing edges of the rudder and control surfaces,  NACA vents, etc.  You can also store the unused portion in the fridge and  it will keep almost indefinitely.

  

 This is STRONG stuff.  Once it sets,  you will have to grind it off or use a chisel to break the bond.  The 3M  5200 also comes in a 24 HR version for a slower cure.  Find it at any good  hardware store or Marine parts store.

  

 Jack

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