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				|  Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 4:30 pm    Post subject: [regulatory] Using a CJ or Yak for instruction (was: ELT) |   |  
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				| Bitterlich GS11 Mark G wrote:
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | Regarding these conversations with the FAA,  I was very interested in hearing their viewpoint concerning "carrying passengers in Experimental
 Exhibition aircraft" was well.  For example, a lot of people are getting
 aerobatic instruction in their YAK52's, or CJ's, etc. etc.  Speaking
 about opening a bag of worms!
 
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 I am quite interested in this topic as well. My problem is that I am
 deathly afraid of asking anything of the FAA that might involve their
 use of the word "no" as, once that word has been uttered, it is
 virtually impossible to get them to use the word "yes" WRT the same topic.
 
 So, how *does* one manage to use a CJ6A or Yak-52 for aerobatic training?
 
 BTW, I looked in the idea of creating a club but was shot down on the
 insurance front if there are more than 4 people in the "club".
 
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				|  Posted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: [regulatory] Using a CJ or Yak for instruction (was: ELT) |   |  
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				| You can apply to your FSDO to give a waiver that will allow  instruction for
compensation for check out in type to licensed pilots. Aerobatics are part
 of the flight manuals for Yaks and I presume CJ's and certainly for SU-29's.
 Therefore a competent check out would include those aerobatics. First you
 probably should be a flight instructor or recognized by your FSDO as one
 competent to give check outs in that particular make and model.
 
 George Coy
 President
 Gesoco Industries Inc.
 629 Airport Rd.
 Swanton, VT 05488
 TEL 802-868-5633
 FAX 802-868-4465
 Web Site www.gesoco.com
 e-mail George(at)gesoco.com
 Franklin County Airport (KFSO)
 
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