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jesse(at)itecusa.org
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 Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:20 am Post subject: Digiflight IIVSGV |
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Tim (or anybody else who might know),
I understand that the Garmin 480 is a WAAS GPS, so it will steer the Digiflight IIVSGV vertically (which the Garmin 430 and 530 will not, at least not until they have the WAAS upgrade available). Do you know if it will actually fly you down the WAAS approaches? Further, will it fly vertical portions of other approaches as well, or just the WAAS ones? N415EC will have a 430, so I am just planning on the Digiflight IIVSG, but wanted to know the capabilities of different instruments on the GV model. Also, what other GPS’s/Instruments will give Vertical GPS Steering information to the A/P?
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Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 8:54 am Post subject: Digiflight IIVSGV |
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I don't know for sure if it will fly the vertical approach. That may
be only with the Chelton. You may want to ask TruTrak that. I know
the GNS480 is capable, but I don't know if the DFIIVSGV is, when
coupled to it. You may need the RV-10 model or the sorcerer.
As far as the other capabilities of the GNS480, I have explored very
little of that unit. The Chelton has been so overwhelmingly much
easier to use, and appears to be so much more capable when coupled
to the GNS480, that other than as a backup, I don't feel any urge
to use it in depth. I probably should have gone with a cheaper
Nav/com/gps, or another SL30 + 396 combo instead of the 480, and
then added the freeflight WAAS receiver to my Chelton, because
that would have cost about the same and given even more power.
To the A/P, the only things that will give it vertical steering are
items capable of doing it digitally through ARINC.
Tim
Jesse Saint wrote:
| Quote: | Tim (or anybody else who might know),
I understand that the Garmin 480 is a WAAS GPS, so it will steer the
Digiflight IIVSGV vertically (which the Garmin 430 and 530 will not, at
least not until they have the WAAS upgrade available). Do you know if
it will actually fly you down the WAAS approaches? Further, will it fly
vertical portions of other approaches as well, or just the WAAS ones?
N415EC will have a 430, so I am just planning on the Digiflight IIVSG,
but wanted to know the capabilities of different instruments on the GV
model. Also, what other GPS’s/Instruments will give Vertical GPS
Steering information to the A/P?
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org <mailto:jesse(at)itecusa.org>
www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
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Andrew(at)trutrakap.com
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:28 am Post subject: Digiflight IIVSGV |
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The Digiflight II VSGV will fly the WAAS approach from the GNS480. Currently only the 480, Grand Rapids EFIS, and Chelton EFIS have been verified to couple with the Digiflight II VSGV.
Andrew Barker
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TruTrak Flight Systems
"You build it...We fly it!"
PH:479-751-0250 Ext. 222
www.trutrakap.com
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2006 11:19 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Digiflight IIVSGV
Tim (or anybody else who might know),
I understand that the Garmin 480 is a WAAS GPS, so it will steer the Digiflight IIVSGV vertically (which the Garmin 430 and 530 will not, at least not until they have the WAAS upgrade available). Do you know if it will actually fly you down the WAAS approaches? Further, will it fly vertical portions of other approaches as well, or just the WAAS ones? N415EC will have a 430, so I am just planning on the Digiflight IIVSG, but wanted to know the capabilities of different instruments on the GV model. Also, what other GPS’s/Instruments will give Vertical GPS Steering information to the A/P?
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org (jesse(at)itecusa.org)
www.itecusa.org
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 9:53 am Post subject: Digiflight IIVSGV |
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That's great news. I never tried it with the 480 yet, and don't
know why I'd need to unless I'm completely EFIS failed.
But, it's great that the DFIIVSGV can do it. It's a heck of
a good little AP for it's size and cost.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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Andrew Barker wrote:
| Quote: | The Digiflight II VSGV will fly the WAAS approach from the GNS480.
Currently only the 480, Grand Rapids EFIS, and Chelton EFIS have been
verified to couple with the Digiflight II VSGV.
Andrew Barker
General Manager
TruTrak Flight Systems
"You build it...We fly it!"
PH:479-751-0250 Ext. 222
www.trutrakap.com
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Jesse Saint
*Sent:* Thursday, June 15, 2006 11:19 AM
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* Digiflight IIVSGV
Tim (or anybody else who might know),
I understand that the Garmin 480 is a WAAS GPS, so it will steer the
Digiflight IIVSGV vertically (which the Garmin 430 and 530 will not, at
least not until they have the WAAS upgrade available). Do you know if
it will actually fly you down the WAAS approaches? Further, will it fly
vertical portions of other approaches as well, or just the WAAS ones?
N415EC will have a 430, so I am just planning on the Digiflight IIVSG,
but wanted to know the capabilities of different instruments on the GV
model. Also, what other GPS’s/Instruments will give Vertical GPS
Steering information to the A/P?
Do not archive.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org <mailto:jesse(at)itecusa.org>
www.itecusa.org <http://www.itecusa.org>
W: 352-465-4545
C: 352-427-0285
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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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| Posted: Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:13 am Post subject: Digiflight IIVSGV |
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Another list member saw today's AP reply I did, and asked me
to comment on now that I've been flying a while, what would
I change on the panel. I wrote this reply, but decided to
send it on to the list, because I know one choice that
always bugs builders is what to get between the GNS-430,
480, and 530. I don't have all the answers, but I may
as well send the reply out so the other interested parties
can see how I feel today...
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Replying to:
"Tim...
If you had to spec your panel out today what would you change? Your
input would be appreciated as I try and detail mine out."
It's a hard question....really hard. I have very little that
I'd change, actually. I use COM1 (SL-30) all the time, and it's
about the best thing since sliced bread when it comes to a nice
and cheap simple NAV/COM. What I really lack though, is *certified*
WAAS data fed into the Chelton for a totally truly certified WAAS
legal approach. The FreeFlight GPS enables that. So for me to
fly WAAS approaches, I should technically load the approach into
both systems and fly it while monitoring the GNS-480 all the time.
To me, that isn't perfect.
But, then there's the dilema.... What *great* options do I have
where I could save money and keep things fitting into the panel?
Well, the GNS480 gone gives me room for another SL-30. Plus, I'd
have room for something else that's not too thick. But, I can't
really mount a 396 in the panel with what I have left. The 396
is really nice, but I'll tell you I'm not interested in having
any of in-flight navigation stuff hanging off in other places.
If it isn't on the panel, I'm not happy. The only compromise
is with the paper or tablet charts....those are kind of nice to
have portable anyway, so I can have someone else pull them up
and prepare them for me and read them without playing with
my panel.
Then there's the issue that the GNS480 is really a sweet radio
anyway. It works really well, and does some things that I love.
I can tune a VOR and load a GPS waypoint, and it will not only
display the distance to the waypoint, but I get a readout as
to my distance from the VOR too. I like to keep the
nearest VOR's punched up on the SL-30 and GNS480 on X/C trips.
It works great as a COMM, and it also displays traffic, but
only a fraction of the quality of what the Chelton traffic
display is. But in general, it's a beauty of a radio. And,
since it fits, it's a nice, graphical GPS, that runs a CDI,
that can fly approaches, and according to Andrew's post will
even fly my WAAS approach....so it's a great unit. And,
it fits in the location just great.
So, if I ditched it, there isn't anything as fantastic that
I could put in it's place. Maybe a 430. But, without the
480 in the panel, I'd sill want the FreeFlight for it's
WAAS, and integrated into the Chelton would make the Chelton
IDEAL. But at this point, the only reason I'd choose a 430
over a 480 is cost.....
So ultimately, I'm left with what would I actually DO with my
panel if I wanted to change it??? At this point, I can say
that after 80+ hours, there's nothing that I'd really *change*
about it, but, if I can find me a good deal on a FreeFlight
GPS, I may possibly be willing to ADD to it. I love the panel,
and it's everything I dreamed it would be, but I could add
that icing on the cake. Anyone who has a FreeFlight that
they want to get rid of, talk to me....I may very well be
interested.
Oh, and if I started all over again and could up the budget,
and they were delivering at the time, I'd probably put
in the TruTrak RV-10 Autopilot. I don't even know exactly
what "more" it does, feature for feature, but I know
it does *more*, and it has more buttons.
For the cost though, if I was stuck with the same budget,
and no more, I can honestly say I wouldn't change anything
at all....from the electrical system, to the instrument
choices, to the layout....it's all been exactly as I
wanted.
Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying
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