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Florida Phlyers. Phooey.
I've flown my CJ since 96 in Mountain winters, six years in Montana and eleven years in Utah, no problems. Get Doug's restrictor plate for oil cooler inlet and give yourself time to warm up the CHT and oil temp. Go fly and enjoy. Maybe electric socks....
Skip Slyfield
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1. 05:20 AM - Flying in Winter (Dr. Robert Schroeder)
2. 06:13 AM - Re: Flying in Winter (Bill Geipel)
3. 07:15 AM - Re: Flying in Winter (desmor944(at)aol.com)
4. 07:22 AM - Re: Flying in Winter (doug sapp)
5. 11:21 AM - Re: Flying in Winter (Adrian Coop Cooper)
6. 01:56 PM - Flying in Winter (Cpayne)
7. 02:02 PM - Re: Flying in Winter (cjpilot710(at)aol.com)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 05:20:12 AM PST US
From: "Dr. Robert Schroeder" <Firedog(at)visi.com>
Subject: Flying in Winter
Happy Holidays Yaksters..
Kelley and I have been discussing the perils of flying CJ's in the winter.
I brought up the oil temperatures and the need to block the air intake for
the oil cooler.
How can this be effectively accomplished?
He, being the wise one offered this heart stopping thought: "What about the
freezing of water/oil slurry in the pneumatic system? Could this be why the
Chinese don't fly CJ's in the winter?"
"What happens if any of the actuators get moisture in it and fails to
function..."
So, I pose these questions to you all. Can CJ's be flown without worry of
freeze-up in the winter.excluding the pilot..?
Ever the rookie.and
Standing by in "only getting colder Minnesota"
ras
Dr. Robert A. Schroeder
Schroeder Fire Inc.
612.922.2349
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 06:13:02 AM PST US
From: Bill Geipel <czech6(at)mesanetworks.net>
Subject: Re: Flying in Winter
I moved to warmer climate. Never had a problem since.
Merry Christmas
Bill
On Dec 22, 2012, at 6:17 AM, "Dr. Robert Schroeder" <Firedog(at)visi.com> wrote
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> Happy Holidays Yaksters.
>
> Kelley and I have been discussing the perils of flying CJ=99s in the
winter. I brought up the oil temperatures and the need to block the air in
take for the oil cooler.
> How can this be effectively accomplished?
>
> He, being the wise one offered this heart stopping thought: =9CWhat a
bout the freezing of water/oil slurry in the pneumatic system? Could this b
e why the Chinese don=99t fly CJ=99s in the winter?=9D
> =9CWhat happens if any of the actuators get moisture in it and fails
to function..=9D
>
> So, I pose these questions to you all. Can CJ=99s be flown without w
orry of freeze-up in the winterexcluding the pilot.?
>
> Ever the rookieand
> Standing by in =9Conly getting colder Minnesota=9D
> ras
>
> Dr. Robert A. Schroeder
> Schroeder Fire Inc.
> 612.922.2349
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________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 07:15:03 AM PST US
Subject: Re: Flying in Winter
From: desmor944(at)aol.com
Robert,
I have been flying my CJ through the last 12 New England winters without i
ssue. Biggest problem is taxiing on snow or sinking into thawing ground.
Doug Sapp makes a very nice kit for the oil cooler inlet duct. It includes
a screen to keep debris out of the duct year round, and a removable, adjus
table restricter plate for the winter. A photo is attached. It does a goo
d job of keeping the oil temperature where it should be,
I'll turn the hangar heat on a few hours before the pre-flight, and have no
problem starting or getting the oil circulating. For the pilot, get a CWU
-64/P winter nomex flight suit. These show up as surplus on occasion. I am
still running the original generator, so with excess available electrical
power, there is a 24 volt quartz heater under the rear panel for the passen
ger. With a bright sun shining in through the plexiglass canopy, this comb
ination has been comfortable down to 10 DegF.
Be religious about draining the snot bottle and brake drain. I have not ex
perienced any freezing problems.
Quahog
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