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scott-p(at)texas.net
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 3:55 am Post subject: Aerobatic Training

Hi Tom,



Let me get you in touch with Tom Adams. He lives not too far away from 

you, was a Yak 55 owner for many years, and a member of the US Advanced 

Team for many years. Unless you object, I'll forward your e-mail and 

e-mail address to him and let you guys get together. Alternatively, I'll 

be happy to teach you, but I am in El Paso, Texas... Not as far as CA,  

but probably farther than FL or VA...



Scott Poehlmann

Yak 55M N155YK



On 12-26-2010 13:22, Thomas Smith wrote:

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 Have been half owner in a Yak 52 for about a year now, and done just a few loops and rolls in it. Have done all the basic figures in my Citabria, as well as flying it in two IAC contests.



 Want to find someone fairly close by who can teach me the figures, especially spins, in the Yak done to competition (IAC) standards.  I live at Crossville, TN (home of Trade-a-Plane).



 I know there are the two Russian guys in Florida and Virginia, but wanted to find someone closer.  Any suggestions?



 Tom Smith

 thomas_csmith(at)yahoo.com

richard.goode(at)russiana
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 4:55 am Post subject: Aerobatic Training

Hi Tom,

Before spinning the 52 DO make sure you have good instruction by a pilot who 

is really experienced on type.It is a safe plane in that it will always 

recover,but with the correct procedure,and without it can bite the unwary!!

Richard Goode Aerobatics

Rhodds Farm

Lyonshall

Hereford

HR5 3LW

United Kingdom



Tel:   +44 (0) 1544 340120

Fax:  +44 (0) 1544 340129

www.russianaeros.com

I'm currently in Sri Lanka but this Mail is working,and my local phone is 

+94 779 132 160.

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cjpilot710(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:12 am Post subject: Aerobatic Training

You might want to check the rudder cables covers on the floor and make sure the ends at the rudder bar are trimmed at an angle.

  

 I understand a number of the Russians pros, do this to keep a foot from getting caught at the heel, during large rudder displacement in spins.

  

 Jim "Pappy" Goolsby

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bwade154(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:15 am Post subject: Aerobatic Training

Hi Tom I think your going to have to find a pilot that is competent and comfortable in the upright flat spin in a "YAK 52". When I got my training it was very apparent that the "YAK 52" would not immediately recover from the upright flat spin and had I ever encountered one without the proper training it would have most likely gone to the ground. That said I've done a lot of acro and screwed up a lot of maneuvers and stalled spun the airplane on most practice flights and NEVER has the airplane gone flat unintentionally. I've never flown a Yak 55 but I know the airplane is more of an acro aircraft than a 52 and would probably have different recovery procedures. I had my training with Nikolay Timofeev.

 Bill Wade

   From: Scott Poehlmann <scott-p(at)texas.net>

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Mon, December 27, 2010 6:51:15 AM

Subject: Re: Aerobatic Training

--> Yak-List message posted by: Scott Poehlmann <scott-p(at)texas.net (scott-p(at)texas.net)>

Hi Tom,

Let me get you in touch with Tom Adams. He lives not too far away from 

you, was a Yak 55 owner for many years, and a member of the US Advanced 

Team for many years. Unless you object, I'll forward your e-mail and 

e-mail address to him and let you guys get together. Alternatively, I'll 

be happy to teach you, but I am in El Paso, Texas... Not as far as CA,  

but probably farther than FL or  VA...

Scott Poehlmann

Yak 55M N155YK

On 12-26-2010 13:22, Thomas Smith wrote:

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		   -->  Yak-List message posted by: Thomas Smith<thomas_csmith(at)yahoo.com (thomas_csmith(at)yahoo.com)>

 Have been half owner in a Yak 52 for about a year now, and done just a few loops and rolls in it. Have done all the basic figures in my Citabria, as well as flying it in two IAC contests.

 Want to find someone fairly close by who can teach me the figures, especially spins, in the Yak done to competition (IAC) standards.  I live at Crossville, TN (home of Trade-a-Plane).

 I know there are the two Russian guys in Florida and Virginia, but wanted to find someone closer.  Any suggestions?

 Tom Smith

 thomas_csmith(at)yahoo.com (thomas_csmith(at)yahoo.com)

&gtuilder's Bookstore 

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radiopicture

Joined: 23 Jun 2008
Posts: 263

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:25 am Post subject: Aerobatic Training

Good advice. I recommend that you remove the plate with the rudder cable channels, clamp it securely to your work bench so it doesn't vibrate, and do it with a big flat file. If you take your time doing it this way, it will look very nice. I'm guessing that some machinist-type Yak-listers may have a slicker (or quicker) way to do this, but the primitive method does yield good results. 30 or so degrees will keep even duty boots from getting caught. People who use racing shoes or shoes that aren't particularly square in the back may not run in to this problem. 

On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:07 AM, cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com) wrote:

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		   You might want to check the rudder cables covers on the floor and make sure the ends at the rudder bar are trimmed at an angle.

  

 I understand a number of the Russians pros, do this to keep a foot from getting caught at the heel, during large rudder displacement in spins.

  

 Jim "Pappy" Goolsby

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viperdoc(at)mindspring.co
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 11:17 am Post subject: Aerobatic Training

Pappy,

Those are recommended to be removed entirely for that reason.

Doc

 

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Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 9:15 AM

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Aerobatic Training

 

Good advice. I recommend that you remove the plate with the rudder cable channels, clamp it securely to your work bench so it doesn't vibrate, and do it with a big flat file. If you take your time doing it this way, it will look very nice. I'm guessing that some machinist-type Yak-listers may have a slicker (or quicker) way to do this, but the primitive method does yield good results. 30 or so degrees will keep even duty boots from getting caught. People who use racing shoes or shoes that aren't particularly square in the back may not run in to this problem. 

 



 

On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:07 AM, cjpilot710(at)aol.com (cjpilot710(at)aol.com) wrote:





You might want to check the rudder cables covers on the floor and make sure the ends at the rudder bar are trimmed at an angle.



 



I understand a number of the Russians pros, do this to keep a foot from getting caught at the heel, during large rudder displacement in spins.



 



Jim "Pappy" Goolsby

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Noel Jones

Joined: 06 Jul 2009
Posts: 3
Location: Oregon

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 12:51 pm Post subject: Aerobatic Training

Tom,



I offer aerobatic instruction, upset recovery,as well as aircraft check outs in the Yak 52, but unfortunately my locale is not what you are looking for as I am based out of Oregon.



I have flown competition aerobatics for the past 5 years and have taken the Yak 52 through the intermediate category. If you would like to contact me off line I would be more than happy to pass on what I have found to work for me. It will be great to get another 52 flying competition. 



Noel Jones

 www.BadYak.com



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radiopicture

Joined: 23 Jun 2008
Posts: 263

Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 1:59 pm Post subject: Aerobatic Training

Flat spin recovery in the Yak-52 can require in-spin aileron for numerous rotations. 





On Dec 27, 2010, at 11:09 AM, bill wade wrote:

[quote]Hi Tom I think your going to have to find a pilot that is competent and comfortable in the upright flat spin in a "YAK 52". When I got my training it was very apparent that the "YAK 52" would not immediately recover from the upright flat spin and had I ever encountered one without the proper training it would have most likely gone to the ground. That said I've done a lot of acro and screwed up a lot of maneuvers and stalled spun the airplane on most practice flights and NEVER has the airplane gone flat unintentionally. I've never flown a Yak 55 but I know the airplane is more of an acro aircraft than a 52 and would probably have different recovery procedures. I had my training with Nikolay Timofeev.

Bill Wade



From: Scott Poehlmann <scott-p(at)texas.net (scott-p(at)texas.net)>

To: yak-list(at)matronics.com (yak-list(at)matronics.com)

Sent: Mon, December 27, 2010 6:51:15 AM

Subject: Re: Aerobatic Training



--> Yak-List message posted by: Scott Poehlmann <scott-p(at)texas.net (scott-p(at)texas.net)>



Hi Tom,



Let me get you in touch with Tom Adams. He lives not too far away from 

you, was a Yak 55 owner for many years, and a member of the US Advanced 

Team for many years. Unless you object, I'll forward your e-mail and 

e-mail address to him and let you guys get together. Alternatively, I'll 

be happy to teach you, but I am in El Paso, Texas... Not as far as CA,  

but probably farther than FL or VA...



Scott Poehlmann

Yak 55M N155YK



On 12-26-2010 13:22, Thomas Smith wrote:

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		   -->  Yak-List message posted by: Thomas Smith<thomas_csmith(at)yahoo.com (thomas_csmith(at)yahoo.com)>



 Have been half owner in a Yak 52 for about a year now, and done just a few loops and rolls in it. Have done all the basic figures in my Citabria, as well as flying it in two IAC contests.



 Want to find someone fairly close by who can teach me the figures, especially spins, in the Yak done to competition (IAC) standards.  I live at Crossville, TN (home of Trade-a-Plane).



 I know there are the two Russian guys in Florida and Virginia, but wanted to find someone closer.  Any suggestions?



 Tom Smith

 thomas_csmith(at)yahoo.com (thomas_csmith(at)yahoo.com)



&gtuilder's Bookstore 
	






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dsavarese0812(at)bellsout
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 2:42 pm Post subject: Aerobatic Training

The attached article titled "Spins Unspun" was published in a  2002 Quarterly Warbird Flyer of the then Yak Pilots Association.  The spin  tests were conducted by the University of Tennessee Space Institute.  For  those that have not seen this before, you might find it interesting and  informative.

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n52wn

Joined: 27 Dec 2010
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 6:53 pm Post subject: Re: Aerobatic Training

Hi all, in Tom Smith's aerobatic post he referenced a Russian yak instructor located in Virginia. I recently purchased a yak 52 and would also like to get more aerobatic training. Does anyone have information on this? I'm based at KPVG Hampton Roads Exec. Airport locate just outside of Norfolk. Thanks for the help.............Cheers, Dan

rick(at)rvairshows.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 7:39 pm Post subject: Aerobatic Training

Sergei Prolagayav is one of the most experienced in Yak 52 aerobatics that I have had the pleasure to fly with. He competed in yak 52 worlds, and in Unlimited worlds in Sukhois a couple times. Unfortunately, I no longer have his contact info. Does anyone else have it? He would be my pick if I had a family member with a Yak 52!

Rick Volker 

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Posted: Mon Dec 27, 2010 8:24 pm Post subject: Aerobatic Training

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On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:29 PM, rick(at)rvairshows.com wrote:



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 Sergei Prolagayav is one of the most experienced in Yak 52 aerobatics that I have had the pleasure to fly with. He competed in yak 52 worlds, and in Unlimited worlds in Sukhois a couple times. Unfortunately, I no longer have his contact info. Does anyone else have it? He would be my pick if I had a family member with a Yak 52!

 Rick Volker 

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shinden33

Joined: 02 Nov 2007
Posts: 39

Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2010 8:31 am Post subject: Re: Aerobatic Training

I provide Yak-52 type, basic acro, upset and spin training out of SoCal.  I am available for travel as well.  Feel free to contact me off-line.



Best Regards

Scott Glaser - MEII

661-754-2732

Etienne Verhellen

Joined: 13 Apr 2007
Posts: 141
Location: Belgium

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2011 10:34 am Post subject: Yak 52 Aerobatic Training (including Spinning !)

We provide Yak 52 Aerobatic training. 

Including spins ! 



http://www.planecheck.com/eu/index.asp?ent=dv&id=6711

http://www.belgianaerobaticclub.be/permanent-training



Regards,



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GreasySideUp

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Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2011 4:44 am Post subject: Re: Aerobatic Training

Dan,  I just sent you a private message.  I have a 50 out at Hampton Roads and would be happy to do a little flying with you.



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