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				 Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:40 pm    Post subject: Grass Field HR Operations - my 2c | 
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				Andrew is actually in Hastings Nebraska, cycling  towards California. Slowly. And, um, hotly. You Americans live in a hot  country!
   
  But here's my nickel on grass field ops in the Rocket,  specifically HR2 in my case. Which is that:
   
  Smokey and Vince are right - no probs. In my  case, I just have the standard setup re tyres etc, and I operate in and out  of grass all the time. No worries. Grass length? Truth be told, I prefer it very  long, as in 18 inches or so. Doesn't make much difference getting airborne, but  slows you down nicely landing. In any case, it probably demonstrates the point  that the length doesn't really matter, at least in my experience. Not to a  Rocket, although grass length certainly matters to some other  machines.
   
  Strip length and softness, however, are important. I  won't rave about length - it's obvious. More important to landing than takeoff,  in a Rocket. Rockets don't like soft field very much though - they're a little  nose heavy. It can be done though. Grass, per se, no problem. Grass on top  of muddy or very soft surface, not so good.
   
  Feel free to put your prospective buyer in touch with  me if they'd like a more considered report on grass-field ops in a  Rocket.
   
  Hope that helps. 
   
  a
   
    
   
   
   
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    From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of  johntmey(at)aol.com
 Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:22  PM
 To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Grass  Field HR Operations
  
  Rocketeers,
   
  I have my HR for sale.... and I have a serious buyer who wants to operate  on grass.
   
  My operations are always on pavement.  I've ventured onto grass  recently... tried removing pants 1st just to see what the performance issues  were.
  Rocket is a lot slower and uglier in that config.
   
  I searched back into rocketlist archive regarding grass  field operations.  Rob Ray's comments (Desser tires) are good...  Andrew in New Zealand, grass operator.
  Anyone else ?  What are issues ?
   
  If you are caretaker of your grass strip, how close do you crop the  grass... roll the surface... keep it smooth ??  
   
  Thanks in advance for your comments.
   
  John Meyers N5800  Sequim WA 
  
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		Lee Logan
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:04 pm    Post subject: Grass Field HR Operations - my 2c | 
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				Way cool, Andrew!  That's an adventurous life you lead!!
 
 Lee...
 
 On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:39 PM, ACTIVE NZ - Andrew <andrew(at)nzactive.com (andrew(at)nzactive.com)> wrote:
  [quote]     Andrew is actually in Hastings Nebraska, cycling  towards California. Slowly. And, um, hotly. You Americans live in a hot  country!
   
  But here's my nickel on grass field ops in the Rocket,  specifically HR2 in my case. Which is that:
   
  Smokey and Vince are right - no probs. In my  case, I just have the standard setup re tyres etc, and I operate in and out  of grass all the time. No worries. Grass length? Truth be told, I prefer it very  long, as in 18 inches or so. Doesn't make much difference getting airborne, but  slows you down nicely landing. In any case, it probably demonstrates the point  that the length doesn't really matter, at least in my experience. Not to a  Rocket, although grass length certainly matters to some other  machines.
   
  Strip length and softness, however, are important. I  won't rave about length - it's obvious. More important to landing than takeoff,  in a Rocket. Rockets don't like soft field very much though - they're a little  nose heavy. It can be done though. Grass, per se, no problem. Grass on top  of muddy or very soft surface, not so good.
   
  Feel free to put your prospective buyer in touch with  me if they'd like a more considered report on grass-field ops in a  Rocket.
   
  Hope that helps. 
   
  a
   
    
   
   
   
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    From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com)  [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of  johntmey(at)aol.com (johntmey(at)aol.com)
 Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:22  PM
 To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)
 Subject: Grass  Field HR Operations
  
  Rocketeers,
   
  I have my HR for sale.... and I have a serious buyer who wants to operate  on grass.
   
  My operations are always on pavement.  I've ventured onto grass  recently... tried removing pants 1st just to see what the performance issues  were.
  Rocket is a lot slower and uglier in that config.
   
  I searched back into rocketlist archive regarding grass  field operations.  Rob Ray's comments (Desser tires) are good...  Andrew in New Zealand, grass operator.
  Anyone else ?  What are issues ?
   
  If you are caretaker of your grass strip, how close do you crop the  grass... roll the surface... keep it smooth ??  
   
  Thanks in advance for your comments.
   
  John Meyers N5800  Sequim WA 
  
 
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				 Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 7:41 pm    Post subject: Grass Field HR Operations - my 2c | 
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				Andrew,
 
 Thanks for info about grass field operations "Down Under".  Your wheel spats (if installed, you didn't mention) must be bulletproof.
 Otherwise, hope you are enjoying scenic if hot ride westward... uphill.  Have you heard about the Continental Divide ?  Keep spinning those pedals
 
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				 Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 11:03 am    Post subject: Grass Field HR Operations - my 2c | 
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				I operate mine off of two different strips and the only mod I made was to
 install one of Vince's tail wheels.  I was digging trenches when the field
 was soft as there was not much clearance below the tail wheel, but overall
 no problems.
 I try to keep the grass below 6 inches, but that is only because I end up
 with grass hanging from the pants and tail wheel if it is any longer.
 One strip is 2000 ft and the other is 3200, so no worries about length.
 
 Jeff
 
 On Sun, 15 Aug 2010 23:04:23 -0400, Lee Logan <leeloganster(at)gmail.com>
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		   Way cool, Andrew!  That's an adventurous life you lead!!
  
  
  Lee...
  
  On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:39 PM, ACTIVE NZ - Andrew
  <andrew(at)nzactive.com>wrote:
  
 >  Andrew is actually in Hastings Nebraska, cycling towards California.
 > Slowly. And, um, hotly. You Americans live in a hot country!
 >
 > But here's my nickel on grass field ops in the Rocket, specifically HR2
 > in
 > my case. Which is that:
 >
 > Smokey and Vince are right - no probs. In my case, I just have the
 > standard
 > setup re tyres etc, and I operate in and out of grass all the time. No
 > worries. Grass length? Truth be told, I prefer it very long, as in 18
 > inches
 > or so. Doesn't make much difference getting airborne, but slows you
 down
 | 	  
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  > nicely landing. In any case, it probably demonstrates the point that
 the
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		  > length doesn't really matter, at least in my experience. Not to a
 Rocket,
 | 	  
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  > although grass length certainly matters to some other machines.
 >
 > Strip length and softness, however, are important. I won't rave about
 > length - it's obvious. More important to landing than takeoff, in a
 > Rocket.
 > Rockets don't like soft field very much though - they're a little nose
 > heavy. It can be done though. Grass, per se, no problem. Grass on top
 of
 | 	  
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  > muddy or very soft surface, not so good.
 >
 > Feel free to put your prospective buyer in touch with me if they'd like
 a
 | 	  
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  > more considered report on grass-field ops in a Rocket.
 >
 > Hope that helps.
 >
 > a
 >
 >
 > **
 >
 > *Andrew Fairfax** **| CEO |** ACTIVE NEW ZEALAND AND ACTIVE SOUTH
 AMERICA
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  	  | Quote: | 	 		  > *PO Box 972 | Queenstown, New Zealand 9300 | +64.3.441.2045
 > Free phone Numbers | 1.800.661.9073 (US & Canada) | 0808.234.7780 (UK)
 > Fax Numbers | +64-3-409-0119 (NZ) | 1-603-251-1051 (US & Canada)
 > www.activenewzealand.com | www.activesouthamerica.com
 >
 > * Avoid infinite email loops! Unless I've asked for a reply, you're
 > welcome to not reply. Really   If you email me, you can rely on me
 > having
 > got it. I don't always reply to everything, but feel free to resend if
 > you
 > feel I ought to have replied. *
 >  ------------------------------
 > *From:* owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
 > owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *johntmey(at)aol.com
 > *Sent:* Saturday, August 14, 2010 5:22 PM
 > *To:* rocket-list(at)matronics.com
 > *Subject:* Grass Field HR Operations
 >
 >  **Rocketeers,
 >
 > I have my HR for sale.... and I have a serious buyer who wants to
 operate
 | 	  
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  > on grass.
 >
 > My operations are always on pavement.  I've ventured onto grass
 > recently...
 > tried removing pants 1st just to see what the performance issues were.
 > Rocket is a lot slower and uglier in that config.
 >
 > I searched back into rocketlist archive regarding grass field
 operations.
 | 	  
  	  | Quote: | 	 		  > Rob Ray's comments (Desser tires) are good... Andrew in New Zealand,
 > grass
 > operator.
 > Anyone else ?  What are issues ?
 >
 > If you are caretaker of your grass strip, how close do you crop the
 > grass... roll the surface... keep it smooth ??
 >
 > Thanks in advance for your comments.
 >
 > John Meyers N5800  Sequim WA
 >
 > *
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 > .matronics.com/contribution
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 > *
 
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				 Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 6:01 am    Post subject: Grass Field HR Operations - my 2c | 
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				Ha! Thank you Lee. Not sure, just now, if it's "adventurous",  or "dumb". Feels a bit of the latter - it's really hot here. To put it mildly.  Still. Good to be getting the exercise. How's your Rocketeering coming  along?
   
  Andrew
   
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  Avoid infinite email loops! Unless  I've asked for a reply, you're welcome to not reply. Really   If you email me,  you can rely on me having got it. I don't always reply to everything, but feel  free to resend if you feel I ought to have replied.  
 
   
 
    From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lee  Logan
 Sent: Monday, August 16, 2010 3:04 PM
 To:  rocket-list(at)matronics.com
 Subject: Re: Grass Field HR  Operations - my 2c
  
 Way cool, Andrew!  That's an adventurous life you lead!! 
 
  
 
  Lee...
 
  On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 6:39 PM, ACTIVE NZ - Andrew <andrew(at)nzactive.com (andrew(at)nzactive.com)> wrote:
  [quote]      Andrew is    actually in Hastings Nebraska, cycling towards California. Slowly. And, um,    hotly. You Americans live in a hot country!
     
    But here's    my nickel on grass field ops in the Rocket, specifically HR2 in my case. Which    is that:
     
    Smokey and    Vince are right - no probs. In my case, I just have the standard setup re    tyres etc, and I operate in and out of grass all the time. No worries. Grass    length? Truth be told, I prefer it very long, as in 18 inches or so. Doesn't    make much difference getting airborne, but slows you down nicely landing. In    any case, it probably demonstrates the point that the length doesn't really    matter, at least in my experience. Not to a Rocket, although grass length    certainly matters to some other machines.
     
    Strip    length and softness, however, are important. I won't rave about length - it's    obvious. More important to landing than takeoff, in a Rocket. Rockets don't    like soft field very much though - they're a little nose heavy. It can be done    though. Grass, per se, no problem. Grass on top of muddy or very soft    surface, not so good.
     
    Feel free    to put your prospective buyer in touch with me if they'd like a more    considered report on grass-field ops in a Rocket.
     
    Hope that    helps. 
     
    a
     
        
     
       
     
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 Andrew    Fairfax | CEO    | ACTIVE NEW    ZEALAND AND ACTIVE SOUTH AMERICA
 PO    Box 972 | Queenstown,    New Zealand 9300 | +64.3.441.2045
 Free phone Numbers |    1.800.661.9073 (US & Canada) |    0808.234.7780 (UK)
 Fax Numbers | +64-3-409-0119 (NZ) | 1-603-251-1051    (US & Canada)
 www.activenewzealand.com | www.activesouthamerica.com    
  Avoid infinite email loops!    Unless I've asked for a reply, you're welcome to not reply. Really   If you    email me, you can rely on me having got it. I don't always reply to    everything, but feel free to resend if you feel I ought to have replied.    
 
     
 
          From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of    johntmey(at)aol.com (johntmey(at)aol.com)
 Sent: Saturday, August 14, 2010    5:22 PM
 To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com (rocket-list(at)matronics.com)
 Subject: Rocket-List:    Grass Field HR Operations
    
    Rocketeers,
     
    I have my HR for sale.... and I have a serious buyer who wants to operate    on grass.
     
    My operations are always on pavement.  I've ventured onto grass    recently... tried removing pants 1st just to see what the performance issues    were.
    Rocket is a lot slower and uglier in that config.
     
    I searched back into rocketlist archive regarding grass    field operations.  Rob Ray's comments (Desser tires) are good...    Andrew in New Zealand, grass operator.
    Anyone else ?  What are issues ?
     
    If you are caretaker of your grass strip, how close do you crop the    grass... roll the surface... keep it smooth ??  
     
    Thanks in advance for your comments.
     
    John Meyers N5800  Sequim WA 
    
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 4:59 pm    Post subject: Grass Field HR Operations - my 2c | 
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				Hi Andrew!   Mine is down right now for its annual inspection (called a "conditional" inspection for experimentals in the U.S.).  I'm dropping a Garmin 530W in it and selling my GNC 300XL and SL-30.  A new instrument panel and a few other changes, full paint job and we're off!   I still can't believe I first flew it over a year ago.   135 flights in a year...not too bad.  Have sure had a lot of fun with it.   I'm still trying to retire but can't in this economy (gotta sell my house first), but as soon as I do, I'll be on the road on my KLR-650.  I plan to ride the TAT and probably the Continental Divide trail as well.  After that, we'll see, but for now at least, I'm up for Alaska and South America as well.  I loved riding New Zealand years ago and I've hit Chile and Taz (twice) as well.  Great fun. 
 
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