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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 12:44 am    Post subject: Coolie hat as pointing device Reply with quote

Hi Bob and Group,
On my Stag-Ez I've mounted a tablet PC to show moving maps in sectional
format (OziExplorer programs).
Although my tablet has got a sensitive display, I would need an easily
operable pointing device other than a mouse which is cumbersome to use in
the cockpit.
To this end, I thought I maybe could use the coolie hat and two buttons
(Infinity type) I've got on my stick grip: has someone already studied this
possibility and come up with some solution?
Thank you.
Gianni Zuliani
Tel/Fax +41 91 9710850
Mobile +41 79 3373439
Long-Ez >> Stag-Ez >> Stag-EzR
http://www.comgz.com/tristar.htm


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:43 am    Post subject: Coolie hat as pointing device Reply with quote

Doesn't your tablet PC have a touch screen? When you turn on your radios,
do you get noise from the tablet PC? See www.MyGlassCockpit.com for
something similar to what you're doing. I have not licked the RFI problem yet.

Dave Morris
At 02:33 AM 3/8/2006, you wrote:
Quote:


Hi Bob and Group,
On my Stag-Ez I've mounted a tablet PC to show moving maps in sectional
format (OziExplorer programs).
Although my tablet has got a sensitive display, I would need an easily
operable pointing device other than a mouse which is cumbersome to use in
the cockpit.
To this end, I thought I maybe could use the coolie hat and two buttons
(Infinity type) I've got on my stick grip: has someone already studied this
possibility and come up with some solution?
Thank you.
Gianni Zuliani
Tel/Fax +41 91 9710850
Mobile +41 79 3373439
Long-Ez >> Stag-Ez >> Stag-EzR
http://www.comgz.com/tristar.htm




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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:33 am    Post subject: Coolie hat as pointing device Reply with quote

Here's some ideas:

http://www.littlepc.com/keyboards_pointing.htm

Pax,

Ed Holyoke

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 7:53 am    Post subject: Coolie hat as pointing device Reply with quote

Go to Comp USA and pickup a flat panel pointing device. We did this on
one of our Lancair's with a tablet PC and it worked very well.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 8:04 am    Post subject: Coolie hat as pointing device Reply with quote

Gianni Zuliani a crit :

Quote:


Hi Bob and Group,
On my Stag-Ez I've mounted a tablet PC to show moving maps in sectional
format (OziExplorer programs).
Although my tablet has got a sensitive display, I would need an easily
operable pointing device other than a mouse which is cumbersome to use in
the cockpit.
To this end, I thought I maybe could use the coolie hat and two buttons
(Infinity type) I've got on my stick grip: has someone already studied this
possibility and come up with some solution?



Gianni,

Just wondering, my Dell Latitude laptop has one such little "micro
joystick" between the keys in the middle of my keyboard. Don't use it
much, but this may be what you're looking for.
The day you drop your laptop, just cannibalize it..Wink

FWIW,

Regards,
Gilles Thesee
Grenoble, France
http://contrails.free.fr


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: Coolie hat as pointing device Reply with quote

Re pointing device, How about a Logitech Track ball, USB plug one hand
operation.
Thumb moves the ball, index finger left click or wheel, and middle finger
right click .
I gave up on the notebook touch pad, and this goes where the notebook
goes...wouldn't be without it
Harold


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 6:20 pm    Post subject: Coolie hat as pointing device Reply with quote

We use trackballs on our airborne instruments. Other pointing devices
are hard to use in turbulent air. Touch pads are nearly impossible to
use in rough air.

Here is a picture of the instrument that I built a couple of years ago
on the NOAA WP3 Hurricane Hunter:
http://www.al.noaa.gov/2004/photos/P3/13.jpg

Notice the tiny track ball in the corner of the laptop tray. You "left
click" by pulling the trigger button with your index finger. It is quite
comfortable to work the ball with your thumb. Easy to use in rough air
as your thumb moves with your hand and the whole mouse moves with your
hand too.

Here is a link to the exact "finger" trackball:
http://www.sfcable.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MS4-USB
I've seen them for sale at Walmart, but I couldn't find them on their
website.

I bet you could mount one on top of your control stick. (Be sure to buy
a spare. They are not ultra high quality.) We held ours in place with
Velcro. You can see how your hand could grip the stick while working the
trackball by looking at the picture in the advertisement. Just photoshop
a control stick in. :*)

Bill Dube'

Harold wrote:

Quote:


Re pointing device, How about a Logitech Track ball, USB plug one hand
operation.
Thumb moves the ball, index finger left click or wheel, and middle finger
right click .
I gave up on the notebook touch pad, and this goes where the notebook
goes...wouldn't be without it
Harold





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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 5:01 am    Post subject: Coolie hat as pointing device Reply with quote

Morning, Bill...

>>Here is a link to the exact "finger" trackball:<<

Now THAT'S a great little accessory! Can even use that here at the desktop!

Did a little search, and found it is offered on several websites for as
little as $11.95 and as much as $24.95 (its MSRP).

Also found a couple of WIRELESS finger trackball (logitech makes one)
for a bit more ($30-50)...that sounds like a possibility as well.

Also found this unique little unit...a wireless, rechargeable, RF finger
trackball! Not sure what's in the handle (probably batteries) but it
sure looks like the control stick might fit up inside it (at least mine,
which is still the plans called Long EZ version)...maybe replace the
batteries with a hard wired modification with the wires through the
stick? Make a neat looking control stick. Almost Thrustmaster style.

www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=FDM-B4D-RF&cat=MOU&cpc=MAC

Think I'll take a trip around the local stores this morning and see
what's available here (we have ALL the big stores here in Henrietta
within a mile or so of each other...Wal-Mart, Sam's, BJ's, Target, Best
Buy, CompUSA, Circuit City, Radio Shack, Sears, Wegman's <G>, etc, etc.)

Harley Dixon
Bill Dube wrote:

Quote:


We use trackballs on our airborne instruments. Other pointing devices
are hard to use in turbulent air. Touch pads are nearly impossible to
use in rough air.

Here is a picture of the instrument that I built a couple of years ago
on the NOAA WP3 Hurricane Hunter:
http://www.al.noaa.gov/2004/photos/P3/13.jpg

Notice the tiny track ball in the corner of the laptop tray. You "left
click" by pulling the trigger button with your index finger. It is quite
comfortable to work the ball with your thumb. Easy to use in rough air
as your thumb moves with your hand and the whole mouse moves with your
hand too.

Here is a link to the exact "finger" trackball:
http://www.sfcable.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MS4-USB
I've seen them for sale at Walmart, but I couldn't find them on their
website.

I bet you could mount one on top of your control stick. (Be sure to buy
a spare. They are not ultra high quality.) We held ours in place with
Velcro. You can see how your hand could grip the stick while working the
trackball by looking at the picture in the advertisement. Just photoshop
a control stick in. :*)

Bill Dube'

Harold wrote:



>
>
>Re pointing device, How about a Logitech Track ball, USB plug one hand
>operation.
>Thumb moves the ball, index finger left click or wheel, and middle finger
>right click .
>I gave up on the notebook touch pad, and this goes where the notebook
>goes...wouldn't be without it
>Harold
>
>
>
>
>








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PostPosted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 10:20 am    Post subject: Coolie hat as pointing device Reply with quote

Perhaps you could buy both the wired and wireless finger mice, then swap
the guts. This would give you the nifty case that would fit perfectly on
the top of the stick, but without having to deal with the wireless stuff
or battery replacement/substitution.

Bill Dube'

Harley wrote:

Quote:


Morning, Bill...

>>Here is a link to the exact "finger" trackball:<<

Now THAT'S a great little accessory! Can even use that here at the desktop!

Did a little search, and found it is offered on several websites for as
little as $11.95 and as much as $24.95 (its MSRP).

Also found a couple of WIRELESS finger trackball (logitech makes one)
for a bit more ($30-50)...that sounds like a possibility as well.

Also found this unique little unit...a wireless, rechargeable, RF finger
trackball! Not sure what's in the handle (probably batteries) but it
sure looks like the control stick might fit up inside it (at least mine,
which is still the plans called Long EZ version)...maybe replace the
batteries with a hard wired modification with the wires through the
stick? Make a neat looking control stick. Almost Thrustmaster style.

www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=FDM-B4D-RF&cat=MOU&cpc=MAC

Think I'll take a trip around the local stores this morning and see
what's available here (we have ALL the big stores here in Henrietta
within a mile or so of each other...Wal-Mart, Sam's, BJ's, Target, Best
Buy, CompUSA, Circuit City, Radio Shack, Sears, Wegman's <G>, etc, etc.)

Harley Dixon
Bill Dube wrote:



>
>
>We use trackballs on our airborne instruments. Other pointing devices
>are hard to use in turbulent air. Touch pads are nearly impossible to
>use in rough air.
>
>Here is a picture of the instrument that I built a couple of years ago
>on the NOAA WP3 Hurricane Hunter:
>http://www.al.noaa.gov/2004/photos/P3/13.jpg
>
>Notice the tiny track ball in the corner of the laptop tray. You "left
>click" by pulling the trigger button with your index finger. It is quite
>comfortable to work the ball with your thumb. Easy to use in rough air
>as your thumb moves with your hand and the whole mouse moves with your
>hand too.
>
>Here is a link to the exact "finger" trackball:
>http://www.sfcable.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=MS4-USB
>I've seen them for sale at Walmart, but I couldn't find them on their
>website.
>
>I bet you could mount one on top of your control stick. (Be sure to buy
>a spare. They are not ultra high quality.) We held ours in place with
>Velcro. You can see how your hand could grip the stick while working the
>trackball by looking at the picture in the advertisement. Just photoshop
>a control stick in. :*)
>
> Bill Dube'
>
>Harold wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
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>>
>>Re pointing device, How about a Logitech Track ball, USB plug one hand
>>operation.
>>Thumb moves the ball, index finger left click or wheel, and middle finger
>>right click .
>>I gave up on the notebook touch pad, and this goes where the notebook
>>goes...wouldn't be without it
>>Harold
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
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