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wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:58 am Post subject: Odyssey Batterys

I picked up one of these to replace the motorcycle battery I'm using now. This thing should have plenty of power to start my kitfox on cold days. Only problem is that it's just a tad wider than the current battery box. I noticed that the battery has some plastic ribs on the sides that I assume are to provide some space for cooling. I was thinking about filing them down a touch to get it to fit the box. About 1/3 of the width of the ribs should be plenty so there should still be some space for cooling. Any thoughts?



-Luis

-N824KF

Vic Baker

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 71
Location: Carson City, Nevada

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:38 am Post subject: Odyssey Batterys

Hi Luis,

The ribs are for structural support.  Trim with caution.

Vic

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jdmcbean(at)cableone.net
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Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:50 am Post subject: Odyssey Batterys

When looking for batteries.. consider the sealed battery that we offer..

http://sportplanellc.com/Electrical.htm  it fits in the existing battery box

without any trimming..



Fly Safe !!

John McBean

www.sportplanellc.com

"The Sky is not the Limit...  It's a Playground"



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wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:06 am Post subject: Re: Odyssey Batterys

I actually feel better about trimming if they're for structural support. As I understand it, these things are designed for very high vibration/shock environments like ATVs and snow mobiles. The battery it's replacing feels much flimsier. I would think that the relatively snug fit in the plastic battery box will also add some support. Still not ideal though.



Got any specs on that Deka battery? I didn't build the airplane. How do I tell if I have a stock battery box?

dcaofak(at)acsalaska.net
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:42 am Post subject: Odyssey Batterys

Luis,

I recently made a similar change installing a sealed gel battery that was slightly larger than the original.

I simply fabricated an aluminum battery tray and hold down strap, a little fabric reinforced rubber sheet for cushioning, and used the mounting points from the old box.

While I was at it I moved the starter solenoid to the same side of the firewall as the battery (both in the cabin behind the panel on the left side.).  This eliminated the 'always hot' wire wire running from the battery to the solenoid from going through the firewall, a poor design decision on my part when building the plane

Regards,

John Stoner

KF3, 582

Alaska.

wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Odyssey Batterys

Interesting. My airplane has the same 'feature' with the solenoid. I guess I should take a closer look at that. I ended up going down a size on the battery because it turned out to be a little too tall as well as wide. I could get it in there but the terminals would end up a little too close to the frame for comfort. It was a tough choice though because the smaller battery is just an inch shorter with the same footprint and only a lb lighter but it gives up over 40% in capacity. To boot it was $30 more expensive

roncarolnikko(at)hotmail.
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:16 pm Post subject: Odyssey Batterys

John very good idea about solenoid location. Thanks I'll do mine that way.   

Ron NB Ore



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Luis,

I recently made a similar change installing a sealed gel battery that was 

slightly larger than the original.

I simply fabricated an aluminum battery tray and hold down strap, a little 

fabric reinforced rubber sheet for cushioning, and used the mounting points 

from the old box.

While I was at it I moved the starter solenoid to the same side of the 

firewall as the battery (both in the cabin behind the panel on the left 

side.).  This eliminated the 'always hot' wire wire running from the 

battery to the solenoid from going through the firewall, a poor design 

decision on my part when building the plane

Regards,

John Stoner

KF3, 582

Alaska.

JohnBanes(at)adelphia.net
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 12:36 pm Post subject: Odyssey Batterys

I trimmed my Odyssey with no apparent ill effects.  It's been in service for

over a year with 185+ hours on the Hobbs.



John

S6 912S

wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: Odyssey Batteries

Hey John. Which model did you get? I was originally looking at the PC625 but went down to the PC535 because of height constraints. I bought it from a local Batteries Plus dealer who was very helpful. According to him, the Odyssey is a mil spec battery and even the smaller 535 has more than twice the starting power as your typical lead acid motorcycle battery of the same size. I could not confirm because so few manufacturers will provide real specs for their batteries.



-Luis

lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 3:09 pm Post subject: Odyssey Batterys

John,



I'm a little confused by your post. I don't understand the "always hot" 

wiire from the battery to the solenoid.  Back in 1993 when my kit came the 

wiring diagram called for a master soleniod which I attached to the battery 

box and a starter solenoid down line from the master solenoid.  The starter 

solenoid is mounted near the starter on the engine side of the firewall. 

With the master switch off there is no power to anything but the clock and 

of course the small pigtail to the master solenoid.



Do I understand from your post that you don't have a master solenoid?



Lowell

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dcaofak(at)acsalaska.net
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Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject: Odyssey Batterys

"Hey John. Which model did you get?



-Luis"



My battery is a Power Sonic model PS-12180NB with 18 amps cranking power.  This is the same battery we use in Super Cubs when moving the battery to the boot cowl.

"Do I understand from your post that you don't have a master solenoid?



Lowell"



You are correct, I do not have a master solenoid.

This was primarily for weight saving.  My model III, 582 tipped the scales at 439 1/2 lbs with the radio (panel mount handheld) and ELT on board.



Regards,

John Stoner

KF3, 582

Alaska

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