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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:06 pm    Post subject: Bosch Ice cube relay Reply with quote

I have looked at the schematics on the search for these but could not
understand which pin on the relay is which, also tried to find it on the web
to no avail. There are 5 pins on it. #s 30, 85,86,87,87a. I want to use
this type of relay to control my flaps, reflexor, ailerons, they all will
have a motor that reverses if you change the pos and neg terminals. Sorry
for being so electronically dump.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 6:37 pm    Post subject: Bosch Ice cube relay Reply with quote

Ron,

Remember Europeans switch everything to ground, 30 is always ground no
matter what the circuit. 85 and 86 are the armature or coil. 87 is normally
open to 30 and 87a is normally closed to 30.

John D.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 11, 2006 7:21 pm    Post subject: Bosch Ice cube relay Reply with quote

John, thanks for the reply however do you mean if I put my ground to 30, one
lead from the motor to 85 and the other to 86, then what do I do with 87 and
87a?

Ron

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:26 am    Post subject: Bosch Ice cube relay Reply with quote

Ron, you mentioned reversing a motor... can't be done with a SPDT Bosch relay. You'll need two poles, in your case that's two relays. "Armature" is the coil, the part that gets current flow through it to pull the relay closed. The common contact is, I believe, #30, and the others are the N.O. and N.C. contacts. If that's beyond what you can follow, you are definitely going to need a picture (schematuc) to look at. Ditto for the DC motor reversing concept.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:21 am    Post subject: Bosch Ice cube relay Reply with quote

Ron,

No, 85 and 86 are the contacts that actuate the relay, 30, 87, and 87a are
all the switch. 87a is normaly closed to 30. When voltage (12VDC) is
applied accross 85 and 86, 87a and 30 open and 87 closes to 30. Don,t try
to say that too fast. :~p For what you want to do you need two relays.

John D.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: Bosch Ice cube relay Reply with quote

Ron -

I have a schematic for running the flap motor of our Lancair ES. It is a
reversing scheme using two relays. It is in .pdf format. Let me know if
you want it and I'll email it to you.

Cheers,

John.

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Ron,

No, 85 and 86 are the contacts that actuate the relay, 30, 87, and 87a
are
all the switch. 87a is normaly closed to 30. When voltage (12VDC) is
applied accross 85 and 86, 87a and 30 open and 87 closes to 30. Don,t
try
to say that too fast. :~p For what you want to do you need two relays.

John D.

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:32 am    Post subject: Bosch Ice cube relay Reply with quote

Thanks all for the replies, I will try that today. I did buy 6 of the
relays.

Ron T

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 7:41 am    Post subject: Bosch Ice cube relay Reply with quote

John, thanks for being so patient with me, I tried it that way on the bench
and it works just like you said.

Ron T

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: Bosch Ice cube relay Reply with quote

Here's a neat little pdf that shows some cool relay setups. The reverse pole
stuff that would pertain to a reversing motor is on the last two pages..
Steve dinieri

http://www.tune-town.com/relays.pdf
I have looked at the schematics on the search for these but could not
understand which pin on the relay is which, also tried to find it on the web
to no avail. There are 5 pins on it. #s 30, 85,86,87,87a. I want to use
this type of relay to control my flaps, reflexor, ailerons, they all will
have a motor that reverses if you change the pos and neg terminals. Sorry
for being so electronically dump.

http://bld01.ipowerweb.com/contentmanagement/websites/rtrianoc/page10.html


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: Bosch Ice cube relay Reply with quote

Ron
Where did you buy them. Waytek Wire has great prices on Genuine Bosch "ice cube" relays (and the mounting sockets for them). See

http://order.waytekwire.com/CGI-BIN/LANSAWEB?WEBEVENT+L0A298B332B9408002F3F051+M37+ENG

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Thanks all for the replies, I will try that today. I did buy 6 of the
relays.

Ron T

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 12:52 pm    Post subject: Bosch Ice cube relay Reply with quote

At 06:05 PM 2/11/2006 -0800, you wrote:

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I have looked at the schematics on the search for these but could not
understand which pin on the relay is which, also tried to find it on the web
to no avail. There are 5 pins on it. #s 30, 85,86,87,87a. I want to use
this type of relay to control my flaps, reflexor, ailerons, they all will
have a motor that reverses if you change the pos and neg terminals. Sorry
for being so electronically dump.

http://bld01.ipowerweb.com/contentmanagement/websites/rtrianoc/page10.html


See drawings in the package at:

http://www.aeroelectric.com/PPS/Flight/Flaps/Flaps.pdf

Sheet 3 or 4 is probably what you want.

Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:05 pm    Post subject: Bosch Ice cube relay Reply with quote

Thanks Bob and all the rest, If I don't get it right after all the help you
guys gave me I better quit.

Ron Triano
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