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richard(at)riley.net
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 10:05 am Post subject: Recent post on Rocket list/qb comparison?

As someone who's owned a 360 Long EZ and a 540 Berkut - the power to 

weight and roll rate can be fixed.



However.



An acquaintance of mine at work is thinking about building a 

homebuilt.  He was leaning toward a fixed gear Lancair Legacy.  I'm 

urging him towards an RV-8 or F1.  My question is - how does the F1 

quick build kit compare to the RV quick build?



At 09:31 AM 2/10/2007, you wrote:



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Hi Tim,



I just noticed your comment on the rocket list regarding Rocket vs 

Long EZ fun factor.  The Harmon is more fun.  This is primarily a 

function of the increase in the power to weight ratio, increased 

roll authority, and control harmony.   Additional factors are full 

stall capability, and the somewhat intangible but considerable tail 

wheel attraction (I learned to fly in a tail dragger and was forever smitten).



But:  the efficiency, compound curves and unique appearance of a 

well done EZ  are unmatched in my judgment.  The semi reclining 

position (with excellent visibility) is wonderful and enables a 

person to fly very long distances in comfort.      If I was not 

fortunate enough to have enjoyed both, but had to pick one:  The 

Long EZ.  Mine forever changed my life and gave me experiences I 

will forever cherish.



Stay warm up there,



dave

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u2nelson(at)prodigy.net
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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: Recent post on Rocket list/qb comparison?

I think you will find the F-1 kit to be of outstanding quality, and the end

product is multiple orders of magnitude better than an RV-8.  My un-biased

opinion of course, being an F-1 kit builder and now pilot  



You get a better engine, the IO-540. A better looking aircraft IMO, and you

get more top speed, shorter take off rolls, faster roll rates, amazing

acceleration, virtually the same fuel flows at the same speeds if you can

get yourself to fly that slow, and a climb rate comparison in public would

simply not be in good taste, so we will not talk about that.

   

Honestly I would not hesitate to recommend an F-1 kit if it's in your

budget.  



Greg Nelson

N144X



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Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007 7:58 pm Post subject: Recent post on Rocket list/qb comparison?

Greg, it was mentioned yesterday that the tail was more stout than a

typical RV kit.  What exactly was changed?



John Cox



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smokyray(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 5:52 am Post subject: Recent post on Rocket list/qb comparison?

Richard, 

  I bought RV8 QB kit #15 from the original owner in 99. I sold it in 2001. It was an excellent product with outstanding rivet work and fit of parts. The fuselage was back-riveted and of the highest quality of workmanship. It wasn't however, my RV4. 

  I thought Van had reached "nirvana" in kit building with this QB until I saw one of Mark Fredericks HPA F-1 Rocket QB kits at Oshkosh. HPA is in the Czech Republic, formerly building Migs and other factory aircraft. The workmanship and kit quality is easily equal to and in my humble opinion better than Van's QB kits. 

  It doesn't take a Rocket scientist  to realize the F-1 is a better looking and performing airplane, the RV4 of the new millenium. 



My 2 cents..

Rob Ray

HR2 #76 



Richard Riley <richard(at)riley.net> wrote:[quote] --> Rocket-List message posted by: Richard Riley 



As someone who's owned a 360 Long EZ and a 540 Berkut - the power to 

weight and roll rate can be fixed.



However.



An acquaintance of mine at work is thinking about building a 

homebuilt.  He was leaning toward a fixed gear Lancair Legacy.  I'm 

urging him towards an RV-8 or F1.  My question is - how does the F1 

quick build kit compare to the RV quick build?



At 09:31 AM 2/10/2007, you wrote:



[quote]--> Rocket-List message posted by: Dave Lind 

Hi Tim,



I just noticed your comment on the rocket list regarding Rocket vs 

Long EZ fun factor.  The Harmon is more fun.  This is primarily a 

function of the increase in the power to weight ratio, increased 

roll authority, and control harmony.   Additional factors are full 

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u2nelson(at)prodigy.net
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Posted: Sun Feb 11, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: Recent post on Rocket list/qb comparison?

Yes the F-1 tail is designed for the higher speeds of the rocket and is

beefed up at key attachments compared to an RV-4 tail.  However RV-4 tails

has proved to be up to the task with hundreds of HRII and some F-1s (mine

included) that fly with RV-4 tails.



Greg Nelson



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