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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 7:36 am    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Temp shop is organized, tooling is pretty much all set, inventory is complete!

Am about to start Step 1, “breaking” the edges for the HS main spar reinforcements.

Am really a new guy to this kind of thing and freely admit I know nothing! Any hot tips as I get started?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Congratulations and welcome to the new builders club, I had no building experience either, 1 year into it now and have learned a LOT, take your time, search the web lots of builders have great sites to learn from and get motivation,,
It's frustrating at times but lots of fun and rewarding,
Dan
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:32 am    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Hi there New Guy (since I am not sure of your name)

We tried to catch all the steps on our RV8 here www.rv-8.info ....if you have any specific questions shoot me a line and I will TRY to help. This was Baron’s project for the most part though and I was just another set of hands.

Stephanie


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training
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Subject: New Start


Temp shop is organized, tooling is pretty much all set, inventory is complete!

Am about to start Step 1, “breaking” the edges for the HS main spar reinforcements.

Am really a new guy to this kind of thing and freely admit I know nothing! Any hot tips as I get started?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Welcome.

Don't forget to search the archives if you run into any questions. There is a wealth of information there and usually one can find a string pertaining to your particular question.

Steve Struyk
St. Charles, MO
RV-8, 75 hours

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:03 am    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Why didn't you ever continue the construction on your kit?Just wondering.

On Jan 12, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Stephanie Marshall wrote:
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Hi there New Guy (since I am not sure of your name) 

We tried to catch all the steps on our RV8 here www.rv-8.info ....if you have any specific questions shoot me a line and I will TRY to help.  This was Baron’s project for the most part though and I was just another set of hands. 

Stephanie 
From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD TrainingSent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:36 AMTo: rv8-list(at)matronics.com (rv8-list(at)matronics.com)Subject: New Start
 

Temp shop is organized, tooling is pretty much all set, inventory is complete! 

Am about to start Step 1, “breaking” the edges for the HS main spar reinforcements. 

Am really a new guy to this kind of thing and freely admit I know nothing! Any hot tips as I get started? 

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

No problem!! We ran into the classic builder’s block $$$$$$$$ and time (Baron is an Active Duty Air Force pilot).

We are saving up to buy the wings and will be placing our order hopefully in the next 2-3 weeks. We are also putting money in the kitty for the QB fuselage. When the wings are ready we are planning a trip home to Oregon to see family and pick them up.

If anyone wants us to pick up their wings, fuselage etc. let me know. If you will help with gas we will be more than happy to add your stuff to the trailer.

Steph


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Moreau
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 1:02 PM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: New Start


Why didn't you ever continue the construction on your kit?
Just wondering.


On Jan 12, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Stephanie Marshall wrote:
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Hi there New Guy (since I am not sure of your name)


We tried to catch all the steps on our RV8 here www.rv-8.info ....if you have any specific questions shoot me a line and I will TRY to help. This was Baron’s project for the most part though and I was just another set of hands.


Stephanie



From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:36 AM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com (rv8-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: New Start



Temp shop is organized, tooling is pretty much all set, inventory is complete!


Am about to start Step 1, “breaking” the edges for the HS main spar reinforcements.


Am really a new guy to this kind of thing and freely admit I know nothing! Any hot tips as I get started?


nvrv8builder
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Thanks Steve



Gail Peck



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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:51 AM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
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Welcome.



Don't forget to search the archives if you run into any questions. There
is a wealth of information there and usually one can find a string
pertaining to your particular question.



Steve Struyk

St. Charles, MO

RV-8, 75 hours



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 1:57 pm    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Hi Steph,

Thanks for the info. Where are you guys stationed? What does Baron do/fly?

I teach at the AF Weapons School at Nellis in Las Vegas. Spent 26yrs as an AF pilot – T-33, T-38, F-4, F-5, F-15 and the MiG-17 and MiG-21.

Later. Going to Cessna this weekend for a CAP G1000 checkout. Should be fun if the wx cooperaties.

Gail Peck
aka
Gaillard.peck.ctr(at)nellis.af.mil (Gaillard.peck.ctr(at)nellis.af.mil)
nvRV8builder




From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Marshall
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:38 AM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: New Start


No problem!! We ran into the classic builder’s block $$$$$$$$ and time (Baron is an Active Duty Air Force pilot).

We are saving up to buy the wings and will be placing our order hopefully in the next 2-3 weeks. We are also putting money in the kitty for the QB fuselage. When the wings are ready we are planning a trip home to Oregon to see family and pick them up.

If anyone wants us to pick up their wings, fuselage etc. let me know. If you will help with gas we will be more than happy to add your stuff to the trailer.

Steph


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Moreau
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 1:02 PM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: New Start


Why didn't you ever continue the construction on your kit?
Just wondering.


On Jan 12, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Stephanie Marshall wrote:
Quote:


Hi there New Guy (since I am not sure of your name)


We tried to catch all the steps on our RV8 here www.rv-8.info ....if you have any specific questions shoot me a line and I will TRY to help. This was Baron’s project for the most part though and I was just another set of hands.


Stephanie



From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:36 AM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com (rv8-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: New Start



Temp shop is organized, tooling is pretty much all set, inventory is complete!


Am about to start Step 1, “breaking” the edges for the HS main spar reinforcements.


Am really a new guy to this kind of thing and freely admit I know nothing! Any hot tips as I get started?


nvrv8builder
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:18 pm    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

I just got off the phone with Baron (who is in the United Arab Emirates) and he wanted me to tell you BANDSAW!!! You don’t need an expensive one per say, just one that will cut metal. The tin snips tend to deform the metal he said….we got our bandsaw at Home Depot for ~$100…I don’t remember the brand but it isn’t a fancy one.

Stephanie
www.rv-8.info


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:36 AM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: New Start


Temp shop is organized, tooling is pretty much all set, inventory is complete!

Am about to start Step 1, “breaking” the edges for the HS main spar reinforcements.

Am really a new guy to this kind of thing and freely admit I know nothing! Any hot tips as I get started?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:19 pm    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Hi Gail,

He is pilot for KC-135s here at McConnell.…..

Steph


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 3:57 PM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: New Start


Hi Steph,

Thanks for the info. Where are you guys stationed? What does Baron do/fly?

I teach at the AF Weapons School at Nellis in Las Vegas. Spent 26yrs as an AF pilot – T-33, T-38, F-4, F-5, F-15 and the MiG-17 and MiG-21.

Later. Going to Cessna this weekend for a CAP G1000 checkout. Should be fun if the wx cooperaties.

Gail Peck
aka
Gaillard.peck.ctr(at)nellis.af.mil (Gaillard.peck.ctr(at)nellis.af.mil)
nvRV8builder




From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Marshall
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:38 AM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: New Start


No problem!! We ran into the classic builder’s block $$$$$$$$ and time (Baron is an Active Duty Air Force pilot).

We are saving up to buy the wings and will be placing our order hopefully in the next 2-3 weeks. We are also putting money in the kitty for the QB fuselage. When the wings are ready we are planning a trip home to Oregon to see family and pick them up.

If anyone wants us to pick up their wings, fuselage etc. let me know. If you will help with gas we will be more than happy to add your stuff to the trailer.

Steph


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Moreau
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 1:02 PM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: New Start


Why didn't you ever continue the construction on your kit?
Just wondering.


On Jan 12, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Stephanie Marshall wrote:
Quote:


Hi there New Guy (since I am not sure of your name)


We tried to catch all the steps on our RV8 here www.rv-8.info ....if you have any specific questions shoot me a line and I will TRY to help. This was Baron’s project for the most part though and I was just another set of hands.


Stephanie



From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:36 AM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com (rv8-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: New Start



Temp shop is organized, tooling is pretty much all set, inventory is complete!


Am about to start Step 1, “breaking” the edges for the HS main spar reinforcements.


Am really a new guy to this kind of thing and freely admit I know nothing! Any hot tips as I get started?


nvrv8builder
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 2:37 pm    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Wow the wx look really bad there this weekend. We are scheduled to go commercial to Tulsa and van up to Independence on Sun. If the wx guessers are even close, it ain’t gunna happen that way.

Signing off for about 10 days. Enjoyed the dialogue. Good luck with getting the wings on order.

gaio


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Marshall
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 2:18 PM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: New Start


Hi Gail,

He is pilot for KC-135s here at McConnell.…..

Steph


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 3:57 PM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: New Start


Hi Steph,

Thanks for the info. Where are you guys stationed? What does Baron do/fly?

I teach at the AF Weapons School at Nellis in Las Vegas. Spent 26yrs as an AF pilot – T-33, T-38, F-4, F-5, F-15 and the MiG-17 and MiG-21.

Later. Going to Cessna this weekend for a CAP G1000 checkout. Should be fun if the wx cooperaties.

Gail Peck
aka
Gaillard.peck.ctr(at)nellis.af.mil (Gaillard.peck.ctr(at)nellis.af.mil)
nvRV8builder




From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Marshall
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:38 AM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: New Start


No problem!! We ran into the classic builder’s block $$$$$$$$ and time (Baron is an Active Duty Air Force pilot).

We are saving up to buy the wings and will be placing our order hopefully in the next 2-3 weeks. We are also putting money in the kitty for the QB fuselage. When the wings are ready we are planning a trip home to Oregon to see family and pick them up.

If anyone wants us to pick up their wings, fuselage etc. let me know. If you will help with gas we will be more than happy to add your stuff to the trailer.

Steph


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Moreau
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 1:02 PM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: New Start


Why didn't you ever continue the construction on your kit?
Just wondering.


On Jan 12, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Stephanie Marshall wrote:
Quote:


Hi there New Guy (since I am not sure of your name)


We tried to catch all the steps on our RV8 here www.rv-8.info ....if you have any specific questions shoot me a line and I will TRY to help. This was Baron’s project for the most part though and I was just another set of hands.


Stephanie



From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:36 AM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com (rv8-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: New Start



Temp shop is organized, tooling is pretty much all set, inventory is complete!


Am about to start Step 1, “breaking” the edges for the HS main spar reinforcements.


Am really a new guy to this kind of thing and freely admit I know nothing! Any hot tips as I get started?


nvrv8builder
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Welcome! I find the RV list to be my ‘builders’ group. Some of us get carried away sometimes about politics, religion, and primer (not necessarily in that order) but you won’t find a better group of helpful, knowledgeable and friendly nuts (we build airplanes in our garage case closed). The archives are a first stop for information but don’t sweat it if you ask something dumb.

Mostly, enjoy the journey. I have lost count of the times I couldn’t sleep or something was bothering me and I would grab a cup of coffee and a fresh piece of toast and head to the garage. Nothing like working on a dream to clear the mind and ease the load.

Now, let me tell you what primer you should use….

Vince H.
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Aerosport 180, 3 blade Catto Prop (if I ever get it), Dynon D180, upholstery by Sharon (my wife) and interior paint by Krylon (check archives),



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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 7:36 AM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: New Start


Temp shop is organized, tooling is pretty much all set, inventory is complete!

Am about to start Step 1, “breaking” the edges for the HS main spar reinforcements.

Am really a new guy to this kind of thing and freely admit I know nothing! Any hot tips as I get started?

nvrv8builder
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> I use the Ryobi band saw from Home Depot. DO NOT use the blade it comes with, find a blade with more teeth, at least 15 teeth per inch. It make cutting thin aluminum very quick and easy, especially the stiffeners in the ailerons and rudder. Also a great thing to have is the Ryobi 5 inch disc/36 inch belt sander ($89) at Home Depot. It makes quick work of straightening the long trimmed edges of the stiffeners and rounding off the edges. Get 120 or 150 belts and get several grits for the disc. It is invaluable. Also used the belt sander to get the long edges of the rudder bottom equal and smooth after trimming close to the finely scribed trim line.

Bill Agster
RV-7A #72556
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:14 am    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Hi Stephanie,

I just joined the list. Thinking about building an RV8.

I did a lot of work on the KC & EC-135's as a Com/Nav Specialist late 90's early 2000. I'm out in the civilian world now running Co-Gen power plants. I bet Baron is flying a lot of hours with the current Iraq situation. Hope it all goes well.

I'm hoping to check out Van's production facility when we head out to Oregon for my wife's law school reunion next year. I wonder how close it is to Eugene?

I gather from some of the group emails that it is good to have a small metal cutting band saw, drill press, and belt/disc sander for the project. Are there any other power tools that make the construction go faster and smoother?

Thanks,

Bill
Michigan



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 6:34 am    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

I am happy with my RV8 project - we just joined the wings this weekend. Vans makes the simplest and safest products out there (safety driven by the conservative design and the thousands of flying samples).

The key is to look at your mission. I wanted spacious, economical fast and aerobatic. All for under $10K. So, getting real, I set my priorities: safety, something I could accomplish, close to 200K (speed of my twin), fun over comfort, all glass (could be in any design). Then go match designs to your expectations. The RV8 is a compromize for aerobatics - but it is much more useful than a C150 Aerobat - you can do all the same aerobatics, but with the bubble canopy and performance it feels like a fighter. And you can still do cross countries at 185+K

I keep buying tools. Some have proven to be a waste, others are surprizingly useful. The basic tool kits from Avery Tools, and others, give you most all you need. I have a bandsaw - used it once. A hand hacksaw is better for me. I bought an 8" bench sander (combo belt, disk). It was $70 - probably the most useful tool I have. Bought a rivet squeezer on eBay. After I repaired it, it cost more than a new one. And we seldom use it. Now, I wish I had a 90 degree drill when we mounted the empennage, but I got by without it.

One thing is certain, you can never have too many cleco pliers, steel rules, and blue sharpie pens.

Vans tour is pleasant, but you will learn more cruising this list and linking to some of the other sites, like Kevin Hortons or at www.kitlogpro.com

Dan


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Prestin
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 6:12 AM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: New Start

Hi Stephanie,

I just joined the list. Thinking about building an RV8.

I did a lot of work on the KC & EC-135's as a Com/Nav Specialist late 90's early 2000. I'm out in the civilian world now running Co-Gen power plants. I bet Baron is flying a lot of hours with the current Iraq situation. Hope it all goes well.

I'm hoping to check out Van's production facility when we head out to Oregon for my wife's law school reunion next year. I wonder how close it is to Eugene?

I gather from some of the group emails that it is good to have a small metal cutting band saw, drill press, and belt/disc sander for the project. Are there any other power tools that make the construction go faster and smoother?

Thanks,

Bill
Michigan



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:04 am    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Thanks for the tip Stephanie. I have a band saw in my shop but haven’t used it yet on this project.

I am just getting started. Last night I fitted the reinforcement bars into one side of the stab main spar channel and started the match drill process with the #30 bits and then cleocoed the two parts together.

One question. The metal finishing instructions talk about applying primer to any AL piece that has the protective finish removed. Breaking the edges of the reinforcement and then finishing it with 400 grit sandpaper removes that protective coat. Did you guys primer those reinforcement bars before putting them in place?

Just curious. If anybody else has guidance, please chime in.

Gail peck

Aka Evil


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Marshall
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 2:15 PM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: New Start


I just got off the phone with Baron (who is in the United Arab Emirates) and he wanted me to tell you BANDSAW!!! You don’t need an expensive one per say, just one that will cut metal. The tin snips tend to deform the metal he said….we got our bandsaw at Home Depot for ~$100…I don’t remember the brand but it isn’t a fancy one.

Stephanie
www.rv-8.info


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:36 AM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: New Start


Temp shop is organized, tooling is pretty much all set, inventory is complete!

Am about to start Step 1, “breaking” the edges for the HS main spar reinforcements.

Am really a new guy to this kind of thing and freely admit I know nothing! Any hot tips as I get started?

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Made it as far as Houston on this trip to Independence KS for the G1000 checkout.

3 inches of ice on the runway reported by the Cessna people. I came home as it appeared unworkable this week.

Gail peck


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 2:36 PM
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Wow the wx look really bad there this weekend. We are scheduled to go commercial to Tulsa and van up to Independence on Sun. If the wx guessers are even close, it ain’t gunna happen that way.

Signing off for about 10 days. Enjoyed the dialogue. Good luck with getting the wings on order.

gaio


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Marshall
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 2:18 PM
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Hi Gail,

He is pilot for KC-135s here at McConnell.…..

Steph


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peck Gaillard R Ctr USAFWS/CBD Training
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 3:57 PM
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Hi Steph,

Thanks for the info. Where are you guys stationed? What does Baron do/fly?

I teach at the AF Weapons School at Nellis in Las Vegas. Spent 26yrs as an AF pilot – T-33, T-38, F-4, F-5, F-15 and the MiG-17 and MiG-21.

Later. Going to Cessna this weekend for a CAP G1000 checkout. Should be fun if the wx cooperaties.

Gail Peck
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Gaillard.peck.ctr(at)nellis.af.mil (Gaillard.peck.ctr(at)nellis.af.mil)
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From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Stephanie Marshall
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 11:38 AM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
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No problem!! We ran into the classic builder’s block $$$$$$$$ and time (Baron is an Active Duty Air Force pilot).

We are saving up to buy the wings and will be placing our order hopefully in the next 2-3 weeks. We are also putting money in the kitty for the QB fuselage. When the wings are ready we are planning a trip home to Oregon to see family and pick them up.

If anyone wants us to pick up their wings, fuselage etc. let me know. If you will help with gas we will be more than happy to add your stuff to the trailer.

Steph


From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jeff Moreau
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 1:02 PM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: New Start


Why didn't you ever continue the construction on your kit?
Just wondering.


On Jan 12, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Stephanie Marshall wrote:
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Hi there New Guy (since I am not sure of your name)


We tried to catch all the steps on our RV8 here www.rv-8.info ....if you have any specific questions shoot me a line and I will TRY to help. This was Baron’s project for the most part though and I was just another set of hands.


Stephanie



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Subject: New Start



Temp shop is organized, tooling is pretty much all set, inventory is complete!


Am about to start Step 1, “breaking” the edges for the HS main spar reinforcements.


Am really a new guy to this kind of thing and freely admit I know nothing! Any hot tips as I get started?


nvrv8builder
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:29 am    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Evil, you just opened the proverbial can of worms .. PRIMER!! Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 8:50 am    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips Bill.

I got the band saw you described and put the metal blade on it. Works great.

Love buying tools so will pick up one of the belt sanders.

Gail Peck

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From: owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv8-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of WILLIAM AGSTER
Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:05 PM
To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com
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I use the Ryobi band saw from Home Depot. DO NOT use the blade it comes with, find a blade with more teeth, at least 15 teeth per inch. It make cutting thin aluminum very quick and easy, especially the stiffeners in the ailerons and rudder. Also a great thing to have is the Ryobi 5 inch disc/36 inch belt sander ($89) at Home Depot. It makes quick work of straightening the long trimmed edges of the stiffeners and rounding off the edges. Get 120 or 150 belts and get several grits for the disc. It is invaluable. Also used the belt sander to get the long edges of the rudder bottom equal and smooth after trimming close to the finely scribed trim line.



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RV-7A #72556

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 10:10 am    Post subject: New Start Reply with quote

Gail, I agree about the bandsaw. Never owned one before I started this project, but I've used it a LOT. Cuts through aluminum like a hot knife through butter! I'd hate to do this without my bandsaw ...

I used a pneumatic squeezer a bunch, too. Worth buying a new one? Don't know. I bought mine used at Oshkosh and it's worked great.

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