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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 10:46 am    Post subject: Slick mag P-lead ground wire Reply with quote

I see the P-lead and the ground lug on the back of the Slik mag.

I know I need to use a coaxial wire with the center conductor on the
P-lead and the braided outer conductor on the ground lug.

Two questions:

1) What gage wire do I use. I have some 22 gage coax already run, but is
ths big enough.

2) Do I ground the center conducto to a local ground point at the switch
on the panel or do I ground it to the coax outer conductor?

Thanks

Duane Wilson
RV9A


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 06, 2006 8:30 pm    Post subject: Slick mag P-lead ground wire Reply with quote

At 10:42 AM 11/6/2006 -0800, you wrote:

Quote:


I see the P-lead and the ground lug on the back of the Slik mag.

I know I need to use a coaxial wire with the center conductor on the
P-lead and the braided outer conductor on the ground lug.

Two questions:

1) What gage wire do I use. I have some 22 gage coax already run, but is
ths big enough.

22 is electrically fine . . . at many TC aircraft facilities,
20 or 18AWG is used simply for mechanical robustness.
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2) Do I ground the center conducto to a local ground point at the switch
on the panel or do I ground it to the coax outer conductor?

Grounding to shield is preferred. See exemplar schematics
in:

http://aeroelectric.com/articles/Rev11/AppZ_R11J.pdf

Bob . . .

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:12 am    Post subject: Slick mag P-lead ground wire Reply with quote

Bob,

I have found a certified aircraft with the P-lead shield grounded at the mag
switch end as well as on the mag housing. Is there a down-side (i.e. noise)
to grounding the shield at both ends? (Surprisingly, the Maintenance Manual
for the aircraft does not include wiring for the mag switch or P-lead.)

Mike

Quote:
2) Do I ground the center conductor to a local ground point at the switch
on the panel or do I ground it to the coax outer conductor?

Grounding to shield is preferred. See exemplar schematics
in:

http://aeroelectric.com/articles/Rev11/AppZ_R11J.pdf

Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 6:42 am    Post subject: Slick mag P-lead ground wire Reply with quote

At 09:12 AM 11/9/2006 -0500, you wrote:

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Bob,

I have found a certified aircraft with the P-lead shield grounded at the mag
switch end as well as on the mag housing. Is there a down-side (i.e. noise)
to grounding the shield at both ends? (Surprisingly, the Maintenance Manual
for the aircraft does not include wiring for the mag switch or P-lead.)

There's a number of discussions for p-lead treatment in

http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/MagnetoSwitchOptions.pdf

and

http://www.aeroelectric.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List/AeroElectric-List_FAQ.pdf

Open the .pdf files and search on "p-lead".

In a nutshell, for best noise reduction -AND- avoidance of
a fabricated ground loop, it's best to ground the shield at
one end only (mag end) and use the shield as the ground return
for the mag switch as illustrated in the z-figures and cited
in the two links above.

Bob . . .

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< the authority which determines whether there can be >
< debate or not does not reside in some fraternity of >
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< with experiment. >
< --Lawrence M. Krauss >
---------------------------------------------------------


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 09, 2006 10:55 am    Post subject: Slick mag P-lead ground wire Reply with quote

Thanks Bob.
I will ground to the shield this weekend!!!

Duane

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<nuckollsr(at)cox.net>

At 09:12 AM 11/9/2006 -0500, you wrote:

>
> <lehmans(at)sympatico.ca>
>
>Bob,
>
>I have found a certified aircraft with the P-lead shield grounded at the
> mag
>switch end as well as on the mag housing. Is there a down-side (i.e.
> noise)
>to grounding the shield at both ends? (Surprisingly, the Maintenance
> Manual
>for the aircraft does not include wiring for the mag switch or P-lead.)

There's a number of discussions for p-lead treatment in

http://www.aeroelectric.com/articles/MagnetoSwitchOptions.pdf

and

http://www.aeroelectric.com/FAQ/AeroElectric-List/AeroElectric-List_FAQ.pdf

Open the .pdf files and search on "p-lead".

In a nutshell, for best noise reduction -AND- avoidance of
a fabricated ground loop, it's best to ground the shield at
one end only (mag end) and use the shield as the ground return
for the mag switch as illustrated in the z-figures and cited
in the two links above.

Bob . . .

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< the authority which determines whether there can be >
< debate or not does not reside in some fraternity of >
< scientists; nor is it divine. The authority rests >
< with experiment. >
< --Lawrence M. Krauss >
---------------------------------------------------------


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