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30A PM alternator and Z101?
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 29, 2022 11:46 am    Post subject: 30A PM alternator and Z101? Reply with quote

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Hi Bob,

I have communicated by email and telephone with Bill Judge of Monkworkz.

I passed along your offer of doing performance testing and evaluation of the spike that trips OV protection if the B lead is disconnected under load. At present Bill plans to keep testing in house.

I am in contact with Bill . . . we're discussing
ways in which I might be of service.

Why would the b-lead contactor be opened under load?

Sounds like the rather sophisticated ov management
system described in the Monkworkz literature is
being presented with the equivalent of a load-dump
event. We're not privy to the functional dynamics
of the sensor.

MOST legacy ov protection devices are too 'twitchy'.
The very first project I did for Electro-Mech back about
1975 was a solid state replacement for the
RBM controls RBM138-1 electro-mechanical ov relay

http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Relays/RBM138-1_A.jpg

http://aeroelectric.com/Pictures/Relays/RBM138-1_B.jpg

This device was widely used in Cessna Prospect Plant
airplanes (310, 320). My replacement was solid
state sensing, 1/4th the weight and volume and per
customer's wishes, would trip in about 50 mS
responding to a step from 28 to 32 volts.

Much faster than suggested by Mil-STD-704
description for DC system performance.
See figure 14 of

http://aeroelectric.com/Reference_Docs/Mil-Std-704/704_excerpts.pdf

Design rules tell us that a 32 volt transient
in a 28v system can be EXPECTED to last up to 1
second. DO-160 qualification testing requires us
to DEMONSTRATE an ability to stand off 40V for
one second in 28v system; 20V in a 14V system.

I've designed many ov management devices to customer
procurement specs that were MUCH faster.

Today, I would design to tolerate a bus in excess of
16 volts for 500 milliseconds. If voltage drops
below 16 volts, the timer resets and starts awaits
a new trip decision if the voltage goes back
up.

This protocol is 99.999% immune to all common
transient excursions including alternator
load-dump . . . but will perform as needed
to mitigate an alternator runaway event.

I'll inquire of Bill what his ov detection/
reaction philosophy is next time we talk.






Bob . . .

Un impeachable logic: George Carlin asked, "If black boxes
survive crashes, why don't they make the whole airplane
out of that stuff?"


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