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 Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:47 am Post subject: Fwd: MR16 halogen lamp LED replacement: sanity check |
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While looking for a 'drop in' LED replacement for some 75W MR16 (2" dia) landing light lamps, I've found 'more of the same' in actual LED lumens ratings vs the lumens ratings for the incandescent or halogen bulbs they are replacing. 75W halogens are typically around 2500 total candela (sp?) and 1400 lumens, while the claimed replacements are closer to 500-600 lumens. When I asked one of the common vendors about that, well, see the answer below.
It seems it's time to question someone's sanity. Who's?
Charlie
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From: RV7 Builder <mcsophie(at)gmail.com (mcsophie(at)gmail.com)>
Date: Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 10:33 AM
Subject: Fwd: MR16 halogen lamp LED replacement
To: Charlie England <ceengland7(at)gmail.com (ceengland7(at)gmail.com)>
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Date: Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: MR16 halogen lamp LED replacement
To: RV7 Builder <mcsophie(at)gmail.com (mcsophie(at)gmail.com)>
Hello,
Thank you for contacting 1000Bulbs.com. Based on your emails below, it looks like you are actually referencing two different companies website. One is ours; 1000Bulbs.com. The other is a competitor of Bulbs.com. We are two completely separate entities, and I am only the sales contact on our website of 1000Bulbs.com.
When converting to an LED option, it is not uncommon for the lumens to be lower than the original bulb it is replacing. As LED options are naturally a brighter option, the lumen count will typically be less.
Thank you,
Beth Garcia
Customer Care Advocate Manager
1000Bulbs.com
2140 Merritt Dr. | Garland, TX 75041
972-535-0922 Fax
972-288-2277
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From: RV7 Builder <mcsophie(at)gmail.com (mcsophie(at)gmail.com)>
Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2020 11:29 AM
To: Beth Garcia <bgarcia(at)1000bulbs.com (bgarcia(at)1000bulbs.com)>
Subject: Fwd: MR16 halogen lamp LED replacement
Greetings,
What an amazing coincidence that a Beth Garcia is the sales specialist at two different companies. Could it possibly be, that the two companies, and the two Beths, are the same?
Here's the '75W equivalent' from the 1000bulbs site:
https://www.1000bulbs.com/category/led-mr16-75w-equal/
Obviously, none of these offerings come even close to replacing an original 75W halogen (or, I suspect, even a 50W halogen).
Wouldn't it be better to be honest with your listings, and avoid angry customers?
Charlie
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From: RV7 Builder <mcsophie(at)gmail.com (mcsophie(at)gmail.com)>
Date: Sun, Aug 23, 2020 at 11:03 AM
Subject: MR16 halogen lamp LED replacement
To: <bgarcia(at)1000bulbs.com (bgarcia(at)1000bulbs.com)>
Greetings,
I'm looking for an LED replacement for a 12V, 75W MR16 halogen. The original bas is GU5.3, but is non-critical; I can change the mating connector. I can also accept (actually, prefer) a spot pattern to improve lumens (and throw).
I note that the original Philips 75W lamp is rated at 2500 CP and (for a flood style beam) 1410 lumens. All the LED 'replacements' you list are roughly 1/2 the lumens of the original halogen lamp. Reference:
https://www.bulbs.com/product/75MR16-FL36-EYC-12V-4000-HRS
and
https://www.bulbs.com/Light_Bulbs/10V_--_19V/LED-Bulb_Technology/Reflector-BF_Category/MR/61W_--_75W/results.aspx?Ns=P_Wattage+Sort%7C0
Is there no LED direct replacement for the original light output from the halogen?
Thank you,
Charlie
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| Posted: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:59 am Post subject: Re: Fwd: MR16 halogen lamp LED replacement: sanity check |
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One statement caught my attention:
" As LED options are naturally a brighter option, the lumen count will typically be less."
That does not make sense. Isn't a lumen a unit of brightness?
This website will help to convert from halogen to LED:
https://www.rapidtables.com/calc/light/how-lumen-to-watt.html
I agree Charlie, it will take 2 or 3 of those LEDs to replace 1 halogen.
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