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PostPosted: Wed Feb 26, 2020 10:01 pm    Post subject: Connecting small wire to large terminal Reply with quote

I am building an RV14A and plan to install dual P-mags. In the drawings, power for the P-mags is shown as coming directly from the switched side of the master solenoid.  The problem is that the supply wire is 20 gauge and the solenoid terminal is a 5/16” stud. I have been unable to find a ring terminal connector that will fit both the wire and the solenoid terminal.  Currently, the only thing on the master solenoid terminal is a 1/2”x0.060 solid copper buss bar about 4” long that connects to the starter solenoid. 
This easiest solution seems to be to drill a hole in the buss bar and connect the P-mag lead to it with #6 hardware.  Does anyone see any problem with this?  I guess I should mention that I am using the Advanced Control Module (ACM) with electronic circuit breakers from Advanced Flight Systems for power distribution and, as a result, don’t have direct access to the main buss as I would in a more conventional design.  Access to power upstream of the ACM is limited to the master solenoid location mentioned or at the input power connection to the ACM itself. 
Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Lyn Robertson
Corvallis, OR


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:01 am    Post subject: Connecting small wire to large terminal Reply with quote

https://www.steinair.com/product-category/terminals-tape/page/2/?filter_gauge=18-22-ga

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.............  The problem is that the supply wire is 20 gauge and the
solenoid terminal is a 5/16” stud. I have been unable to find a ring
terminal connector that will fit both the wire and the solenoid
terminal. .......................


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 1:06 am    Post subject: Connecting small wire to large terminal Reply with quote

https://bandc.com/product/insulated-ring-terminal-10-22-awg/

Choose the .31 terminal here a package of 10

so my favorite two suppliers both do have them Smile

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...........  The problem is that the supply wire is 20 gauge and the
solenoid terminal is a 5/16” stud. I have been unable to find a ring
terminal connector that will fit both the wire and the solenoid
terminal. ................................


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:30 am    Post subject: Connecting small wire to large terminal Reply with quote

Quickest is to fill the extra space with extra strands from larger wire.


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I am building an RV14A and plan to install dual P-mags. In the drawings, power for the P-mags is shown as coming directly from the switched side of the master solenoid. The problem is that the supply wire is 20 gauge and the solenoid terminal is a 5/16” stud. I have been unable to find a ring terminal connector that will fit both the wire and the solenoid terminal. Currently, the only thing on the master solenoid terminal is a 1/2”x0.060 solid copper buss bar about 4” long that connects to the starter solenoid.
This easiest solution seems to be to drill a hole in the buss bar and connect the P-mag lead to it with #6 hardware. Does anyone see any problem with this? I guess I should mention that I am using the Advanced Control Module (ACM) with electronic circuit breakers from Advanced Flight Systems for power distribution and, as a result, don’t have direct access to the main buss as I would in a more conventional design. Access to power upstream of the ACM is limited to the master solenoid location mentioned or at the input power connection to the ACM itself.
Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Lyn Robertson
Corvallis, OR


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 6:46 am    Post subject: Connecting small wire to large terminal Reply with quote

Or one of these?

https://m.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/elpages/ring320572.php?clickkey=7519

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[quote] Quickest is to fill the extra space with extra strands from larger wire.

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> I am building an RV14A and plan to install dual P-mags. In the drawings,
> power for the P-mags is shown as coming directly from the switched side of
> the master solenoid. The problem is that the supply wire is 20 gauge and
> the solenoid terminal is a 5/16” stud. I have been unable to find a ring
> terminal connector that will fit both the wire and the solenoid terminal


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 7:19 am    Post subject: Connecting small wire to large terminal Reply with quote

https://www.steinair.com/product/22-18-ga-red-ring-516/ 

Or S814 from B&C 

On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 6:51 AM Sebastien <cluros(at)gmail.com (cluros(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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Or one of these?

https://m.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/elpages/ring320572.php?clickkey=7519

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Quickest is to fill the extra space with extra strands from larger wire.


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I am building an RV14A and plan to install dual P-mags. In the drawings, power for the P-mags is shown as coming directly from the switched side of the master solenoid.  The problem is that the supply wire is 20 gauge and the solenoid terminal is a 5/16” stud. I have been unable to find a ring terminal connector that will fit both the wire and the solenoid terminal.  Currently, the only thing on the master solenoid terminal is a 1/2”x0.060 solid copper buss bar about 4” long that connects to the starter solenoid. 
This easiest solution seems to be to drill a hole in the buss bar and connect the P-mag lead to it with #6 hardware.  Does anyone see any problem with this?  I guess I should mention that I am using the Advanced Control Module (ACM) with electronic circuit breakers from Advanced Flight Systems for power distribution and, as a result, don’t have direct access to the main buss as I would in a more conventional design.  Access to power upstream of the ACM is limited to the master solenoid location mentioned or at the input power connection to the ACM itself. 
Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Lyn Robertson
Corvallis, OR





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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:07 am    Post subject: Connecting small wire to large terminal Reply with quote

Wow!  I feel a little silly.  I did look for the 5/16" ring terminals before I wrote my email and convinced there were none to be found.  Now, they seem to be everywhere!  I am not sure how I could have missed them.  Thank you all for the links and for taking time to answer my question.  Your help is truly appreciated.

Lyn
On Thu, Feb 27, 2020 at 6:51 AM Sebastien <cluros(at)gmail.com (cluros(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

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Or one of these?

https://m.aircraftspruce.ca/catalog/elpages/ring320572.php?clickkey=7519

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Quickest is to fill the extra space with extra strands from larger wire.


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I am building an RV14A and plan to install dual P-mags. In the drawings, power for the P-mags is shown as coming directly from the switched side of the master solenoid.  The problem is that the supply wire is 20 gauge and the solenoid terminal is a 5/16” stud. I have been unable to find a ring terminal connector that will fit both the wire and the solenoid terminal.  Currently, the only thing on the master solenoid terminal is a 1/2”x0.060 solid copper buss bar about 4” long that connects to the starter solenoid. 
This easiest solution seems to be to drill a hole in the buss bar and connect the P-mag lead to it with #6 hardware.  Does anyone see any problem with this?  I guess I should mention that I am using the Advanced Control Module (ACM) with electronic circuit breakers from Advanced Flight Systems for power distribution and, as a result, don’t have direct access to the main buss as I would in a more conventional design.  Access to power upstream of the ACM is limited to the master solenoid location mentioned or at the input power connection to the ACM itself. 
Any advice is greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Lyn Robertson
Corvallis, OR





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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 9:45 am    Post subject: Connecting small wire to large terminal Reply with quote

Easier than that is just to strip a longer amount and fold the wire on itself to get the proper thickness and crimp.


Be aware that the wire, as it emerges out of the crimp will probably be smaller than the insulation crimp will appropriately protect so use some heat shrink or other protective mechanism to prevent separation of this important wire.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 27, 2020 4:05 pm    Post subject: Connecting small wire to large terminal Reply with quote

At 08:28 AM 2/27/2020, you wrote:
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Quickest is to fill the extra space with extra strands from larger wire.



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I am building an RV14A and plan to install dual P-mags. In the drawings, power for the P-mags is shown as coming directly from the switched side of the master solenoid. The problem is that the supply wire is 20 gauge and the solenoid terminal is a 5/16” stud. I have been unable to find a ring terminal connector that will fit both the wire and the solenoid terminal.

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