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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 5:18 pm    Post subject: Speaking of solder . . . Reply with quote

My Hakko 888 arrived today, very pleased with it but it only came with a large tip so I'm wandering around the internet looking for Hakko tips and the prices are quite high and the shipping fees are extortionate. Then I stumble onto Hakko USA's website which have the tips at a very good price and reasonable shipping cost. This gets me thinking a bit more so I check the price of the 888 and sure enough it's $10 more than the cheapest ebay seller and free shipping so you're ahead ordering directly from the website, and can order the tips you want at the same time.

https://www.hakkousa.com/


On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 8:15 AM Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:

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We've had many discussions on the List over the
years concerning soldering materials, tools and
techniques. I own perhaps a dozen tools intended
to effectively heat solder and the target work
piece(s).  I use solders of several types for
both electronic and mechanical joining.

For about the last 15 years, Metcal solder
stations have been my favorite tools for
joining everything from specks of electronic
fly-dung on etched circuit boards to installing
terminals on 4AWG wire. Metcal stuff has been
readily available on eBay and I've pretty well
outfitted the tool boxes of myself and relatives
with these tools.

I had recently had occasion to enhance a product
development partner's tool compliment and decided
to try a prominently promoted product line I saw
on eBay.

http://tinyurl.com/zddlb2t

I bought one for the project . . . and a few
months later, added another to my drive-stand
bench. These have proven VERY capable. Good
temperature control, good energy concentration
at the tip, reasonably priced tips in range
of sizes and shapes. I've found them to be
a good value and more readily available than
the older Metcal system products at similar
prices.

I think Hakko may be the Metcal of the Pacific
Rim. They have a broad range of products
and are widely represented. I can recommend
them as an alternative to Metcal.


   Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 7:15 pm    Post subject: Speaking of solder . . . Reply with quote

I was interested in the soldering topic.  I recently went to Lowe’s and Tractor Supply to get some rosin core electrical solder for use on electrical wires on a homebuilt airplane.   All I could find was LEAD FREE solder.     Has 60/40 or 63/37 Tin/Lead solder now been banned in the USA or what.    I have no trouble finding traditional solder on eBay.   I fully understand the transition to lead free solder for plumbing applications, but I am lost trying to figure it out for electronic applications??    Any comments??

From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com <owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com> On Behalf Of Sebastien
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Subject: Re: Speaking of solder . . .

My Hakko 888 arrived today, very pleased with it but it only came with a large tip so I'm wandering around the internet looking for Hakko tips and the prices are quite high and the shipping fees are extortionate. Then I stumble onto Hakko USA's website which have the tips at a very good price and reasonable shipping cost. This gets me thinking a bit more so I check the price of the 888 and sure enough it's $10 more than the cheapest ebay seller and free shipping so you're ahead ordering directly from the website, and can order the tips you want at the same time.


https://www.hakkousa.com/


On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 8:15 AM Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)>

We've had many discussions on the List over the
years concerning soldering materials, tools and
techniques. I own perhaps a dozen tools intended
to effectively heat solder and the target work
piece(s). I use solders of several types for
both electronic and mechanical joining.

For about the last 15 years, Metcal solder
stations have been my favorite tools for
joining everything from specks of electronic
fly-dung on etched circuit boards to installing
terminals on 4AWG wire. Metcal stuff has been
readily available on eBay and I've pretty well
outfitted the tool boxes of myself and relatives
with these tools.

I had recently had occasion to enhance a product
development partner's tool compliment and decided
to try a prominently promoted product line I saw
on eBay.

http://tinyurl.com/zddlb2t

I bought one for the project . . . and a few
months later, added another to my drive-stand
bench. These have proven VERY capable. Good
temperature control, good energy concentration
at the tip, reasonably priced tips in range
of sizes and shapes. I've found them to be
a good value and more readily available than
the older Metcal system products at similar
prices.

I think Hakko may be the Metcal of the Pacific
Rim. They have a broad range of products
and are widely represented. I can recommend
them as an alternative to Metcal.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 22, 2019 8:01 pm    Post subject: Speaking of solder . . . Reply with quote

Order it. Why mess with lead free, if you don't nave to?

Charlie

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I was interested in the soldering topic.  I recently went to Lowe’s and Tractor Supply to get some rosin core electrical solder for use on electrical wires on a homebuilt airplane.   All I could find was LEAD FREE solder.     Has 60/40 or 63/37 Tin/Lead solder now been banned in the USA or what.    I have no trouble finding traditional solder on eBay.   I fully understand the transition to lead free solder for plumbing applications, but I am lost trying to figure it out for electronic applications??    Any comments??
 
From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) <owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com> (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) On Behalf Of Sebastien
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 7:10 PM
To: aeroelectric-l. <aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com> (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: Speaking of solder . . .
 
My Hakko 888 arrived today, very pleased with it but it only came with a large tip so I'm wandering around the internet looking for Hakko tips and the prices are quite high and the shipping fees are extortionate. Then I stumble onto Hakko USA's website which have the tips at a very good price and reasonable shipping cost. This gets me thinking a bit more so I check the price of the 888 and sure enough it's $10 more than the cheapest ebay seller and free shipping so you're ahead ordering directly from the website, and can order the tips you want at the same time.
 

https://www.hakkousa.com/



 
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 8:15 AM Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
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--> AeroElectric-List message posted by: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)>

We've had many discussions on the List over the
years concerning soldering materials, tools and
techniques. I own perhaps a dozen tools intended
to effectively heat solder and the target work
piece(s).  I use solders of several types for
both electronic and mechanical joining.

For about the last 15 years, Metcal solder
stations have been my favorite tools for
joining everything from specks of electronic
fly-dung on etched circuit boards to installing
terminals on 4AWG wire. Metcal stuff has been
readily available on eBay and I've pretty well
outfitted the tool boxes of myself and relatives
with these tools.

I had recently had occasion to enhance a product
development partner's tool compliment and decided
to try a prominently promoted product line I saw
on eBay.

http://tinyurl.com/zddlb2t

I bought one for the project . . . and a few
months later, added another to my drive-stand
bench. These have proven VERY capable. Good
temperature control, good energy concentration
at the tip, reasonably priced tips in range
of sizes and shapes. I've found them to be
a good value and more readily available than
the older Metcal system products at similar
prices.

I think Hakko may be the Metcal of the Pacific
Rim. They have a broad range of products
and are widely represented. I can recommend
them as an alternative to Metcal.


   Bob . . .


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 23, 2019 5:47 am    Post subject: Speaking of solder . . . Reply with quote

At 09:14 PM 2/22/2019, you wrote:
I was interested in the soldering topic. I recently went to Lowe€™s and Tractor Supply to get some rosin core electrical solder for use on electrical wires on a homebuilt airplane. All I could find was LEAD FREE solder. Has 60/40 or 63/37 Tin/Lead solder now been banned in the USA or what. I have no trouble finding traditional solder on eBay. I fully understand the transition to lead free solder for plumbing applications, but I am lost trying to figure it out for electronic applications?? Any comments??

Ebay is where I buy it. Search on "63/37 Kester"
or "60/40 Kester" and you'll get good stuff. I'm not
saying all else is questionable, but Kester brand
is a known quantity. I have several samples
of Chinese 63/37 electronic solder that
perform well. That includes some products
offered in flux suspended balls (paste)
that work really well to surface mount
parts in reflow ovens.

63/37 isn't 'banned' outright, just limited
to critical applications like avionics and
other products subject to vibration. Lead-free solders
are prone to work-hardening and cracking
under vibration.

Lead free solders have a lot higher ratio of
tin which may, under certain conditions,
grow 'whiskers' that may short out closely
spaced conductors.

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. . . generally not a concern for anything
we do on our airplanes. Our strongest desires
look for rapid and efficient amalgamation
of solder to the work piece surfaces.
To date, I'm aware of no product
that performs better than 63/37 with 60/40
right on its heels. Purity of alloys and
friendly flux are key features of a product
both effective and a pleasure to use. You
cannot go wrong with Kester.



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Order it. Why mess with lead free, if you don't nave to? Charlie On 2/22/2019 9:14 PM, James kale wrote:
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I was interested in the soldering topic. I recently went to Lowe’s and Tractor Supply to get some rosin core electrical solder for use on electrical wires on a homebuilt airplane. All I could find was LEAD FREE solder. Has 60/40 or 63/37 Tin/Lead solder now been banned in the USA or what. I have no trouble finding traditional solder on eBay. I fully understand the transition to lead free solder for plumbing applications, but I am lost trying to figure it out for electronic applications?? Any comments??

From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) <owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com> (owner-aeroelectric-list-server(at)matronics.com) On Behalf Of Sebastien Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 7:10 PM To: aeroelectric-l. <aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com> (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com) Subject: Re: Speaking of solder . . .

My Hakko 888 arrived today, very pleased with it but it only came with a large tip so I'm wandering around the internet looking for Hakko tips and the prices are quite high and the shipping fees are extortionate. Then I stumble onto Hakko USA's website which have the tips at a very good price and reasonable shipping cost. This gets me thinking a bit more so I check the price of the 888 and sure enough it's $10 more than the cheapest ebay seller and free shipping so you're ahead ordering directly from the website, and can order the tips you want at the same time.


https://www.hakkousa.com/




On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 8:15 AM Robert L. Nuckolls, III <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com (nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com)> wrote:
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