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				Ouch….thats a bummer…..no small task
 
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      1. 04:53 AM - Re: Matt's repair  (Bill Settle)
      2. 11:43 AM - Re: Matt's repair  (Tracy Crook)
      3. 02:49 PM - Re: Matt's repair  (John Miller)
  
  
  
  ________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________
  
  
  Time: 04:53:49 AM PST US
  From: Bill Settle <billsettle(at)bellsouth.net>
  Subject: Re: Matt's repair
  
  Tracy,
  Sorry to hear about your misfortune.=C2- Matt wound up replacing his fuse
  lage.=C2- Not a small nor inexpensive endeavor.=C2-=C2-
  Details can be found here....
  http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/category.php?user=MattsRV8&project=2273&c
  ategory=9041
  
  Good luck and let us know what you decide.
  Bill Settle=C2-
  
  
  "Experience and common sense cannot be replaced with policy and procedures.
  "
  
  =C2- - R.L. Nuckolls III
  
       From: Tracy Crook <rwstracy(at)gmail.com>
  To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 2:25 PM
  Subject: Re: Matt's repair
  
  
  I recently had an incident on takeoff (strong gust forced me off side of ru
  nway) and left gear attach point was forced up into the fuselage when it hi
  t the edge of an intersecting taxiway. It caused the exact same airframe da
  mage that Matt had on his RV-8 in landing incident.
  
  I never heard how the repair went or if it was successful and how hard was 
  the repair job.=C2- I=99d love to hear something from Matt or other
  s on how it went.
  
  Tracy Crook
  
  Sent from my iPad
  
 >> On Jun 26, 2018, at 11:57, Brian Huffaker <bifft(at)xmission.com> wrote:
 >> 
 >> On Tue, 26 Jun 2018, Al Dilger wrote:
 >> 
 >> 
 >> Been wondering about a few RV issues.
 >> 1=Does anyone know of an accurate fuel measuring device for RV
  =99s? (RV8A) I have Garmin G3X Touch with the Stewart Warner floats.
 >> Because the =9Cthrow=9D (depth of tank) is relatively short 
  the gauges read 16 gal when full (21g) and stay there until there is about 
  13g left, aside from that they are pretty accurate.
 >> Im thinking that a dipstick type of gauge attached to the bottom of the 
  fuel cap could be worked out..Any thoughts???
 > 
 > A dipstick would have the same problem in the opposite direction, reading
 > nothing for the last few gallons.=C2- Also you couldn't use it in fligh
  t.
 > Would be easy enough to calibrate one starting from an empty tank.
 > 
 >> 2= I would like to see an improvement to the canopy rollers, it seems
 >> to me that a hard rubber wheel would work better.
 > 
 > Would be an easy change to make, but don't see why rubber wheels would be
 > an improvement.
 > 
 >> 3= I remember when building I had seen a mod to allow the pilot seat
 >> back to move more rearward (My seat back sits up too straight) wonder if
 >> there is a more simple way to accommodate that then changing and
 >> modifying
 >> =C2- =C2- the center support bar.
 > 
 > That would be the "tall pilot option" that Van's sells, they say it is
 > for 6'6" and up, I'm only 6'4" and have it.=C2- Have to duck to close t
  he
 > canopy if wearing headset.=C2- It is just a different center bar with t
  he
 > main support further back.=C2- The extruded angle that forms the sides 
  of the
 > seatback are also left longer.
 > 
 > If you have short legs, you could move the seatback hinge forward to
 > get a steeper angle and use the standard center bar.=C2- This would mea
  n less
 > leg room, need a different size/shape seat cushion.=C2- You wouldn't ha
  ve as
 > bit a flat space before the slope up at the front of the seat.
 > 
 > Brian Huffaker, DSWL (bifft(at)xmission.com)
 > RV-8A N609HZ in test period
  
  S -
  WIKI -
  -
  =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
  
  
  
  
  ________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________
  
  
  Time: 11:43:36 AM PST US
  From: Tracy Crook <rwstracy(at)gmail.com>
  Subject: Re: Matt's repair
  
  Thanks for the link Bill, just what I needed.  
  
  As Matt noted, the RV-8 gear will take even hard landing loads but not strai
  ght up vertical loads.  My damage was almost exactly what Matt's was except m
  y gear leg (same as Matt's) was not bent and I had no wing damage except for
  the wing tank rib.  The wheel pant shattered on impact with the edge of the
  taxiway and part of it fell off somewhere during my flight around the patte
  rn.  I heard it flopping around then stop.  
  
  The exciting part was the fuel spraying into the cabin from the damaged tank
  rib.  As a side note, I was glad I had plumbed the fuel line in rubber hose
  instead of aluminum. It probably would have broken off like the aluminum ve
  nt line did and I=99d have never made it around to land.
  
  I=99m in the process of drilling out skin rivets and exposing the stru
  cture and while it=99s not going to be a picnic, I=99m going to a
  t least give repairing the fuselage a try.  
  
  Tracy Crook
  
 > On Jul 30, 2018, at 05:53, Bill Settle <billsettle(at)bellsouth.net> wrote:
 > 
 > Tracy,
 > 
 > Sorry to hear about your misfortune.  Matt wound up replacing his fuselage
  .  Not a small nor inexpensive endeavor.  
 > 
 > Details can be found here....
 > 
 > http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/category.php?user=MattsRV8&project=2273&
  category=9041
 > 
 > Good luck and let us know what you decide.
 > 
 > Bill Settle
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > 
 > "Experience and common sense cannot be replaced with policy and procedures
  ."
 > 
 >  - R.L. Nuckolls III
 > 
 > 
 > From: Tracy Crook <rwstracy(at)gmail.com>
 > To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com 
 > Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 2:25 PM
 > Subject: Re: Matt's repair
 > 
 > 
 > I recently had an incident on takeoff (strong gust forced me off side of r
  unway) and left gear attach point was forced up into the fuselage when it hi
  t the edge of an intersecting taxiway. It caused the exact same airframe dam
  age that Matt had on his RV-8 in landing incident.
 > 
 > I never heard how the repair went or if it was successful and how hard was
  the repair job.  I=99d love to hear something from Matt or others on h
  ow it went.
 > 
 > Tracy Crook
 > 
 > Sent from my iPad
 > 
 >>> On Jun 26, 2018, at 11:57, Brian Huffaker <bifft(at)xmission.com> wrote:
 >>> 
 > 
 > 
  
  ________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________
  
  
  Time: 02:49:26 PM PST US
  From: John Miller <gengrumpy(at)aol.com>
  Subject: Re: Matt's repair
  
  Tracy,
  
  Please post some pictures for us when you can.
  
  grumpy
  N82W (in the paint shop now!)
  
 > On Jul 30, 2018, at 1:43 PM, Tracy Crook <rwstracy(at)gmail.com> wrote:
 > 
 > Thanks for the link Bill, just what I needed.  
 > 
 > As Matt noted, the RV-8 gear will take even hard landing loads but not 
  straight up vertical loads.  My damage was almost exactly what Matt's 
  was except my gear leg (same as Matt's) was not bent and I had no wing 
  damage except for the wing tank rib.  The wheel pant shattered on impact 
  with the edge of the taxiway and part of it fell off somewhere during my 
  flight around the pattern.  I heard it flopping around then stop.  
 > 
 > The exciting part was the fuel spraying into the cabin from the 
  damaged tank rib.  As a side note, I was glad I had plumbed the fuel 
  line in rubber hose instead of aluminum. It probably would have broken 
  off like the aluminum vent line did and I=99d have never made it 
  around to land.
 > 
 > I=99m in the process of drilling out skin rivets and exposing 
  the structure and while it=99s not going to be a picnic, I=99m
  going to at least give repairing the fuselage a try.  
 > 
 > Tracy Crook
 > 
 > On Jul 30, 2018, at 05:53, Bill Settle <billsettle(at)bellsouth.net 
  <mailto:billsettle(at)bellsouth.net>> wrote:
 > 
 >> Tracy,
 >> 
 >> Sorry to hear about your misfortune.  Matt wound up replacing his 
  fuselage.  Not a small nor inexpensive endeavor.  
 >> 
 >> Details can be found here....
 >> 
 >> 
  http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/category.php?user=MattsRV8&project=2273&
  category=9041 
  <http://www.mattsrv8.com/users/category.php?user=MattsRV8&project=2273
  &category=9041>
 >> 
 >> Good luck and let us know what you decide.
 >> 
 >> Bill Settle
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> 
 >> "Experience and common sense cannot be replaced with policy and 
  procedures."
 >> 
 >>  - R.L. Nuckolls III
 >> 
 >> 
 >> From: Tracy Crook <rwstracy(at)gmail.com <mailto:rwstracy(at)gmail.com>>
 >> To: rv8-list(at)matronics.com <mailto:rv8-list(at)matronics.com> 
 >> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2018 2:25 PM
 >> Subject: Re: Matt's repair
 >> 
  <mailto:rwstracy(at)gmail.com>>
 >> 
 >> I recently had an incident on takeoff (strong gust forced me off side 
  of runway) and left gear attach point was forced up into the fuselage 
  when it hit the edge of an intersecting taxiway. It caused the exact 
  same airframe damage that Matt had on his RV-8 in landing incident.
 >> 
 >> I never heard how the repair went or if it was successful and how 
  hard was the repair job.  I=99d love to hear something from Matt 
  or others on how it went.
 >> 
 >> Tracy Crook
 >> 
 >> Sent from my iPad
 >> 
 >>>> On Jun 26, 2018, at 11:57, Brian Huffaker <bifft(at)xmission.com 
  <mailto:bifft(at)xmission.com>> wrote:
 >>>> 
 >> 
 >> 
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
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