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fklein(at)orcasonline.com
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject: bronze tint vs. clear glazing

I'm one who got stiffed on the windscreen & windows w/ the demise of 

Europa Acft. and am pondering the question of tinted vs. clear glazing. 

I've concerns regarding night flying w/ the tinted plexi, and at the 

same time wonder about overheating if I go w/ the clear. I've seen some 

Europas which compensate for the extra heat gain w/ the clear by using 

overhead screens which are suction-cupped to the "roof".



Is there anyone who regrets their choice (whichever it was) who would 

share their experiences?



Is it feasible to extend one's painted finish over some portions of the 

plexiglas?...perhaps in some manner which might mitigate overheating 

without unduly limiting visability?



Any comments gratefully received,



Fred

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EuropaXSA276(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 2:51 pm Post subject: bronze tint vs. clear glazing

You are not the only one that got stiffed on the glass Fred.  Fortunately LP Aero Plastics fixed me up!  ( LP Aero 1086 Boquet Rd Jennette, PA 156449730 Phone 724-744-4448)

 For a price that is.  I went with a clear windshield and light solar gray windows. Not installed yet. Still packed neatly in the shipping crate. 

  

 I was not crazy about the bronze color. In addition I thought that it would be too dark for the reasons you have mentioned.  I believe that the light solar gray tint will be a good compromise.

  

 By the way The set cost $700.00 last year including the shipping. 

 Part Numbers are:

 Windshield LP-1460 CL

 Left Canopy LP-1461 SG

 Right Canopy LP-1562 SG

  

 Brian Skelly

Europa XS TriGear #A276

North Texas USA

You can see my build photos at:

http://www.europaowners.org/BrianS

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fklein(at)orcasonline.com
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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: bronze tint vs. clear glazing

Brian,



Thanks for reminding me of the availability of solar grey tint...I've 

been in touch w/ the folks in PA so I am not concerned about sourcing 

the components, merely the decision as to type of plexi.



Love to hear from someone who's been flying regarding the questions of 

night vision, glare, heat gain, vis a vis clear vs. solar grey tint vs. 

bronze tint...(?)...also regarding the question of re-configuring the 

shape and extent of the side windows (with paint) as a means to 

reducing heat gain. I suspect some distinctive and tasteful shapes 

could result from studying such a possibility.



Fred

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Posted: Sat Sep 30, 2006 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: bronze tint vs. clear glazing

No flight exp yet, but if I take my amber tint glass outside at night, the reduction in light transmission seems less than 15%.  An advantage of amber is better contrast during daytime.  It will mean I would not need my amber tint sunglasses (Serengetti), but just my slightly tinted bifocal eyeglasses (VariLux progressives, the ones w/o lines).  I now need latter to fly the Grumman AA-5, and I wish it had amber tint windows. Note that I now don’t need sunglasses as bad as when younger, with a slight case of cataracts. Otherwise, I’d have to buy VariLux in sunglass tint, and VariLux are priced like airplane parts!



Fred F.

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gdh(at)isp.com
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: bronze tint vs. clear glazing

Fre,

I went with the light grey tint on the windshield and medium grey on the 

sides windows.  Visibility is very good but necessary to add a "stick on" 

sunshade (Walmart)  on the top.  The sun gets a bit hot here in Calif!

Regards,

Dale

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johnwigney(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: bronze tint vs. clear glazing

Hi Fred,



I decided to go with clear glazing since I enjoy night flying and did 

not think it was wise to degrade visibilty with tinted plexiglass. I 

live in North Carolina which gets pretty hot and have travelled 

elsewhere in the US in hotter places in the summer. I have found no 

reason to regret my decision. One advantage is better natural heating in 

the winter.



What is important is to have good ventilation. I have the factory NACA 

inlets in the side of the cockpit and also an overhead, hinged hatch 

ventilator which have been adequate for me. However, from discussion on 

the forum, I believe that the 'Ultimate Ventilator' design is probably 

better than the NACA inlets.



To minimise direct sunshine, I use Sporty's overhead shades, item 

#7605A, see 

http://www.sportys.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&Product_ID=9526&DID=19 . There 

are other similar shades available in auto stores.



Cheers, John

N262WF, mono XS, 912S

Mooresville, North Carolina

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Subject: bronze tint vs. clear glazing

From: Fred Klein <fklein(at)orcasonline.com>

I'm one who got stiffed on the windscreen & windows w/ the demise of 

Europa Acft. and am pondering the question of tinted vs. clear glazing. 

I've concerns regarding night flying w/ the tinted plexi, and at the 

same time wonder about overheating if I go w/ the clear. I've seen some 

Europas which compensate for the extra heat gain w/ the clear by using 

overhead screens which are suction-cupped to the "roof".

Is there anyone who regrets their choice (whichever it was) who would 

share their experiences?

Is it feasible to extend one's painted finish over some portions of the 

plexiglas?...perhaps in some manner which might mitigate overheating 

without unduly limiting visability?

Any comments gratefully received,

Fred

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