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AV8ORJWC
Joined: 13 Jul 2006
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Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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 Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 9:46 am Post subject: Production schedule for future engine output |
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Diesel aircraft engines for worldwide RV-10 potential. FYI. 300 hp variant. Pictures available offline (it’s a radial double-stacked  . Thielert is working on one as well cause 100LL is simply not available in Europe. The airlines are working on bio-diesel as a replacement for Jet A. Just more food for thought.
John
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From: Zoche [mailto:info(at)zoche.de]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 8:13 AM
To: John W. Cox
Subject: Re: Production schedule for future engine output
Dear Sir,
thank you for your e-mail and the interest you express in our engines.
We still are in a concurrent JAR-E and FAR 33 certification procedure which will require about two more years. It is considered to expand our current German / U.S. certification program to a European / U.S. certification program. Availability of production engines is at least two years away. The 150 and 300 hp engines will be followed by the 70 hp Z0 03A which shares most of its components with the ZO O1A aero-diesel.
As we do not sell engines yet, there is no final price list. However, our prices will be competitive to those of conventional aircraft engines of similar horsepower output, on a Dollar per horsepower scale. Major savings are to be expected through reduced operating costs.
In case of further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us or visit our webpage and frequently asked questions list at http://www.zoche.de
Yours Sincerely,
Georg Zoche
Am 28.08.2006 15:20 Uhr schrieb "John W. Cox" unter <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com>:
I am over from the United States for a week and wanting to know if you will go into limited production anytime soon. I build US approved Experimental Aircraft.
John Cox
Rollandstrasse 70
Koln 50677
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pierre(at)danieljofriel.c
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:15 am Post subject: Production schedule for future engine output |
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very interesting concept, and web site.
Pierre Levy
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of John W. Cox
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:46 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: FW: Production schedule for future engine output
Diesel aircraft engines for worldwide RV-10 potential. FYI. 300 hp variant. Pictures available offline (it’s a radial double-stacked . Thielert is working on one as well cause 100LL is simply not available in Europe. The airlines are working on bio-diesel as a replacement for Jet A. Just more food for thought.
John
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From: Zoche [mailto:info(at)zoche.de]
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 8:13 AM
To: John W. Cox
Subject: Re: Production schedule for future engine output
Dear Sir,
thank you for your e-mail and the interest you express in our engines.
We still are in a concurrent JAR-E and FAR 33 certification procedure which will require about two more years. It is considered to expand our current German / U.S. certification program to a European / U.S. certification program. Availability of production engines is at least two years away. The 150 and 300 hp engines will be followed by the 70 hp Z0 03A which shares most of its components with the ZO O1A aero-diesel.
As we do not sell engines yet, there is no final price list. However, our prices will be competitive to those of conventional aircraft engines of similar horsepower output, on a Dollar per horsepower scale. Major savings are to be expected through reduced operating costs.
In case of further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us or visit our webpage and frequently asked questions list at http://www.zoche.de
Yours Sincerely,
Georg Zoche
Am 28.08.2006 15:20 Uhr schrieb "John W. Cox" unter <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com>:
I am over from the United States for a week and wanting to know if you will go into limited production anytime soon. I build US approved Experimental Aircraft.
John Cox
Rollandstrasse 70
Koln 50677
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GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:17 am Post subject: Production schedule for future engine output |
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Don't know what this means to this group...but my friend who's been waiting for his Delta Hawk 180hp engine is about ready to receive it in the next week. I understand that this is one of the first batches to be shipped to builders.
P
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AV8ORJWC
Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: Production schedule for future engine output |
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Some builders have been curious about engine alternatives beyond rotary. Diesel, radial, water-cooled, corvette and other variants than Lycosaurus. If Deltahawk floats your boat at 180hp – Good Sailing and keep us informed. Some did not know of the Zoche.
JC
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:18 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: FW: Production schedule for future engine output
Don't know what this means to this group...but my friend who's been waiting for his Delta Hawk 180hp engine is about ready to receive it in the next week. I understand that this is one of the first batches to be shipped to builders.
P
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pcasson(at)sasktel.net
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 10:50 am Post subject: Production schedule for future engine output |
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Zoche – I think it was 1997 when I actually touched their engines at OSH and they were already legends for being a year away from certification when they told me “next year”
Interesting guys, they don’t seem to want your money, the engines looked well engineered and googling Usenet shows they been around since at least 1993 with the same basic plan. Whoever is paying the bills over there certainly has a lot of patience.
Perry Casson - Wiring
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AV8ORJWC
Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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| Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:39 am Post subject: Production schedule for future engine output |
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He is an extension of a University Research project funded by the Deutsch government. The numbers look impressive and like vaporware, fan the flames of planners until real engines are in the hands of builders intending to fly. Thielert has climbed its share of mountains on airflow and liquid cooling with their 1.7 liter four banger Mercedes. It is a documented diesel fuel miser.
John
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Perry Casson
Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 11:49 AM
To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: FW: Production schedule for future engine output
Zoche – I think it was 1997 when I actually touched their engines at OSH and they were already legends for being a year away from certification when they told me “next year”
Interesting guys, they don’t seem to want your money, the engines looked well engineered and googling Usenet shows they been around since at least 1993 with the same basic plan. Whoever is paying the bills over there certainly has a lot of patience.
Perry Casson - Wiring
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