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kearney(at)shaw.ca
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 8:52 am Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

Hi  

   

I am starting to set up an area in my garage that I can use as a workshop. The only power I have in the garage is a single 15 amp circuit. This powers a fridge, a freezer as well as lights, power receptacles and the garage door opener.  

   

I have a single breaker slot open on my power panel and plan to run an additional circuit. Assuming I run all my intermittent use tools (band saw / drill press) off the new circuit, will the new 15 AMP 110V circuit be sufficient for a compressor as well. If so can anyone recommend an appropriate compressor given that I will not be painting? I have read about the Husky VT6315 from Home Depot on the list, but am wondering if this is overkill for my needs.  I have also read that some 15 amp compressors can cause breaker trips.  

   

Any guidance most welcome.  

   

Les  

RV10 wannabe  

   

   

   

    

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n8vim(at)arrl.net
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:21 am Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

Les,

    A single 15A circuit will handle a good compressor. I have a single 

15A circuit for the compressor I have, which I bought 10 years ago; Its 

a 20 Gal. "5 HP" Coleman Black Max oil lubed, belt driven compressor 

which then cost me about $500; Prices are very similar today.



I put "5HP" in quotes since its not really 5HP.. The marketing folks did 

their spin on it. The 5HP is really the power produced at the moment of 

the motor stalling. If it were really 5HP...   Lets see: 5HP = 3,728 

Watts divided by 115v equals 32.4 AMPS !!!



As for breaker trips, most can be avoided by not using undersized wire 

from your breaker panel, and also not using any extension cord.



Watch out for similar "marketing" information when looking for a compressor.



-Jim 40384



Les Kearney wrote:



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		   Hi



  



 I am starting to set up an area in my garage that I can use as a 

 workshop. The only power I have in the garage is a single 15 amp 

 circuit. This powers a fridge, a freezer as well as lights, power 

 receptacles and the garage door opener.



  



 I have a single breaker slot open on my power panel and plan to run an 

 additional circuit. Assuming I run all my intermittent use tools (band 

 saw / drill press) off the new circuit, will the new 15 AMP 110V 

 circuit be sufficient for a compressor as well. If so can anyone 

 recommend an appropriate compressor given that I _will not_ be 

 painting? I have read about the Husky VT6315 from Home Depot on the 

 list, but am wondering if this is overkill for my needs.  I have also 

 read that some 15 amp compressors can cause breaker trips.



  



 Any guidance most welcome.



  



 Les



 RV10 wannabe



  



  



  



   



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jdalton77(at)comcast.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 9:44 am Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

I bought one from Harbor Freight for $149 that is a 21 Gallon upright with 

3HP motor.  It's pretty quiet and has worked for me for the past 9 months. 

It handles riveting tasks with no problem.  If I'm drilling a lot of think 

aluminum (like the longerons) it does kick on quite a bit, but it keeps up. 

The die grinder slows down some if I'm using a lot.  That said, like 

everything from Harbor Freight,it's  not the greatest quality but it works 

just fine (I do love my pop rivet puller from them though).



I thought about investing in a higher quality compressor since I was going 

to use it all the time, but I chose to put my money into a great Sioux 

drill, two ATS Rivet guns, and Main Squeeze rivet squeezer from Cleveland..

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jjessen

Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 285
Location: OR

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:27 am Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

Les, 15A is fine for most home 2-stage oiled compressors, but I'm not  sure you want it on with everything else.  I used to have mine on with the  shop lights and they didn't like it when it'd come on.  I finally found an  outlet that had less constant usage and everybody was happy.  I bet if your  fridge and freezer started their compressors about the same time your compressor  kicked in you'd be heading for the panel.  But how often would that  be?  Might be something to live with.  

  

 I  got a CH one on sale at Sears (floor model).  Similar to this guy.  I  think I got it at $100 off, so it was to good a deal to pass up.  I've been  very happy with it.  

  

 [img]cid:244281818(at)10092006-217B[/img]

  

 On their web site at:  http://www.campbellhausfeld.net/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10051&productId=60827&langId=-1&parent_category_rn=10537

  

 John Jessen

  

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   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Les  Kearney

Sent: Sunday, September 10, 2006 9:49 AM

To:  rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Compressor  Recommendation

 

  

Hi 

  

I am starting to set up an area in  my garage that I can use as a workshop. The only power I have in the garage is a  single 15 amp circuit. This powers a fridge, a freezer as well as lights, power  receptacles and the garage door opener. 

  

I have a single breaker slot open on  my power panel and plan to run an additional circuit. Assuming I run all my  intermittent use tools (band saw / drill press) off the new circuit, will the  new 15 AMP 110V circuit be sufficient for a compressor as well. If so can anyone  recommend an appropriate compressor given that I will not be painting? I  have read about the Husky VT6315 from Home Depot on the list, but am wondering  if this is overkill for my needs.  I have also read that some 15 amp  compressors can cause breaker trips. 

  

Any guidance most  welcome. 

  

Les 

RV10 wannabe 

  

  

  

  

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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 10:32 am Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

If it were me, I'd put in a 20A breaker and run 12 Ga. wire.  The cost difference is pennies since you're going to add the circuit anyway.  Remember what you're protecting:  the wire.   There are a couple of reasons that the 15A breakers kick ..... they're operating on the edge of their capability and may also have smaller wire in the circuit.  My recommendations would be to get a 220 compressor, 10Ga. wire, and piggyback that on the smallest 220 breaker you have.   A good size tank is preferable too.  I don't know offhand what size my tank is, but it is a 6 HP upright tank model from Home Depot and cost me $300.  Probably a little highter now   .  If you get a bigger compressor, then you'll never get caught short down the road when you need the air.  I wish I had pictures of the two guys locally that manifolded two little 1 HP compressors together to get enough air!!!

 Linn

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 Les Kearney wrote:

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Hi      

       

I am starting to set up an area in my garage that I can use as a workshop. The only power I have in the garage is a single 15 amp circuit. This powers a fridge, a freezer as well as lights, power receptacles and the garage door opener.      

       

I have a single breaker slot open on my power panel and plan to run an additional circuit. Assuming I run all my intermittent use tools (band saw / drill press) off the new circuit, will the new 15 AMP 110V circuit be sufficient for a compressor as well. If so can anyone recommend an appropriate compressor given that I will not be painting? I have read about the Husky VT6315 from Home Depot on the list, but am wondering if this is overkill for my needs.  I have also read that some 15 amp compressors can cause breaker trips.      

       

Any guidance most welcome.      

       

Les      

RV10 wannabe      

       

       

       

     

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jim(at)CombsFive.Com
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 11:38 am Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

Les,



I have a 1/2 hp belt driven compressor on a 10 gallon tank that has served me very well.  I have air plumbed to both a basement workshop (Wings / Emp) and to the garage (Fuselage).  It's rated at 1 CFM (at) 100 PSI.  It won't paint, but runs 3/8 rachet with no problems at all.  The 1/2 inch impact is a bit of a stretch for it.  I even put a muffler on the air intake to make it really quiet.  



The rivet gun (2x)  and air nailers don't tax it at all.



Other tools include a 1 in belt sander (Bench top mounted on a pedistal), 6" grinder with a scotchbrite wheel and a 12" table top band saw.  It's unlikely you will be using more than one at a time (Unless you have lots of help).        



Just a data point for consideration.



Jim Combs

N312F

40192



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From: Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca>

Date: 2006/09/10 Sun PM 12:49:10 EDT

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Compressor Recommendation



Hi



 



I am starting to set up an area in my garage that I can use as a workshop.

The only power I have in the garage is a single 15 amp circuit. This powers

a fridge, a freezer as well as lights, power receptacles and the garage door

opener.



 



I have a single breaker slot open on my power panel and plan to run an

additional circuit. Assuming I run all my intermittent use tools (band saw /

drill press) off the new circuit, will the new 15 AMP 110V circuit be

sufficient for a compressor as well. If so can anyone recommend an

appropriate compressor given that I will not be painting? I have read about

the Husky VT6315 from Home Depot on the list, but am wondering if this is

overkill for my needs.  I have also read that some 15 amp compressors can

cause breaker trips.



 



Any guidance most welcome.



 



Les



RV10 wannabe



 



 



 



  

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
Guest

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:24 pm Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

Jim,



Please don't take this wrong, but...are you being serious?

I can't tell if you're joking and being facetious, or if

you really are using a 1/2 hp on a 10 gallon tank.  I can't

for the life of me imagine using that if you are using

it for an air drill doing countersinking, or using a die

grinder.  But, you mention ratchet and impact wrenches....

and those I'm sure would work fine for quick jobs.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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jim(at)CombsFive.Com wrote:

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 Les,

 

 I have a 1/2 hp belt driven compressor on a 10 gallon tank that has

 served me very well.  I have air plumbed to both a basement workshop

 (Wings / Emp) and to the garage (Fuselage).  It's rated at 1 CFM (at)

 100 PSI.  It won't paint, but runs 3/8 rachet with no problems at

 all.  The 1/2 inch impact is a bit of a stretch for it.  I even put a

 muffler on the air intake to make it really quiet.

 

 The rivet gun (2x)  and air nailers don't tax it at all.

 

 Other tools include a 1 in belt sander (Bench top mounted on a

 pedistal), 6" grinder with a scotchbrite wheel and a 12" table top

 band saw.  It's unlikely you will be using more than one at a time

 (Unless you have lots of help).

 

 Just a data point for consideration.

 

 Jim Combs N312F 40192

 

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 Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> Date: 2006/09/10 Sun PM 12:49:10 EDT 

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Compressor

 Recommendation

 

 Hi

 

 

 

 I am starting to set up an area in my garage that I can use as a

 workshop. The only power I have in the garage is a single 15 amp

 circuit. This powers a fridge, a freezer as well as lights, power

 receptacles and the garage door opener.

 

 

 

 I have a single breaker slot open on my power panel and plan to run

 an additional circuit. Assuming I run all my intermittent use tools

 (band saw / drill press) off the new circuit, will the new 15 AMP

 110V circuit be sufficient for a compressor as well. If so can anyone

 recommend an appropriate compressor given that I will not be

 painting? I have read about the Husky VT6315 from Home Depot on the

 list, but am wondering if this is overkill for my needs.  I have also

 read that some 15 amp compressors can cause breaker trips.

 

 

 

 Any guidance most welcome.

 

 

 

 Les

 

 RV10 wannabe

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Rick S.

Joined: 12 Feb 2006
Posts: 347
Location: Las Vegas

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

LOLOLOL....compressor wars!!!



I have a 5hp/ 26 gal oilless Coleman from Costco, loud as crap, works great except for massive drilling and die grinding. If I had to do it all over I would get a 220 powered two cylinder oiled model with a big upright tank that would be heading into the hangar when I'm done, now my Coleman will stay in the garage for tires and I'll buy a nice quiet one for the hangar for me and me mates.



Rick S.

40185



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deej(at)deej.net
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Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:02 pm Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

Les Kearney wrote:



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		   about the Husky VT6315 from Home Depot on the list, but am wondering if


	


Hi Les,

	FWIW this is the unit I am using.  I am running it off a single 15A

circuit with no troubles.  I can run a few other small items off the

same circuit at the same time, but nothing much bigger without nuisance

trips.  The compressor itself has been great running drills, cut-off

tool, etc.  It is also fairly quiet, as compressors go.  I'm working in

an attached garage, and with the door closed you can hardly hear the

compressor in the house.  I highly recommend it.



-Dj

AV8ORJWC

Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 2:37 pm Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

Good used secondary storage tanks help in smoothing the demand on the

compressor.  Unless you are rotary sanding composite structures for long

periods of time, the smaller residential compressor can fill both the

primary and a backup secondary tank quite well.  Remember to have

adequate, multiple filters in the system to remove condensate.



John Cox



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jim(at)CombsFive.Com
Guest

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 3:27 pm Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

Tim, 



I am serious, It has worked for me so far.  I will confess to not using an air drill or air die grinder.  I used an electric drill and die grinder.  Those will use substantially more air.  My drill is not the normal slow turning electric drill.  I have always kept extra new bits and if I detect any dull bits, I grab a new one.  I have always deburred the holes and they seem to come out fine.  My tech couselor has been checking my work and he has not pointed me to the air drill.



I know that runs against the grain for a lot of folks.  Air drill vs electric is almost like the engine and primer wars.  



Based on the other responses for Les, I think putting in the  20 amp breaker, using the larger wire, and going air tools all the way is the best answer.  My compressor has served me well for it being as small as it is.  And it's really quiet. 



Jim C



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From: Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com>

Date: 2006/09/10 Sun PM 05:23:38 EDT

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Compressor Recommendation






Jim,



Please don't take this wrong, but...are you being serious?

I can't tell if you're joking and being facetious, or if

you really are using a 1/2 hp on a 10 gallon tank.  I can't

for the life of me imagine using that if you are using

it for an air drill doing countersinking, or using a die

grinder.  But, you mention ratchet and impact wrenches....

and those I'm sure would work fine for quick jobs.

Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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jim(at)CombsFive.Com wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Les,

 

 I have a 1/2 hp belt driven compressor on a 10 gallon tank that has

 served me very well.  I have air plumbed to both a basement workshop

 (Wings / Emp) and to the garage (Fuselage).  It's rated at 1 CFM (at)

 100 PSI.  It won't paint, but runs 3/8 rachet with no problems at

 all.  The 1/2 inch impact is a bit of a stretch for it.  I even put a

 muffler on the air intake to make it really quiet.

 

 The rivet gun (2x)  and air nailers don't tax it at all.

 

 Other tools include a 1 in belt sander (Bench top mounted on a

 pedistal), 6" grinder with a scotchbrite wheel and a 12" table top

 band saw.  It's unlikely you will be using more than one at a time

 (Unless you have lots of help).

 

 Just a data point for consideration.

 

 Jim Combs N312F 40192

 

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 ============================================================ From:

 Les Kearney <kearney(at)shaw.ca> Date: 2006/09/10 Sun PM 12:49:10 EDT 

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com Subject: Compressor

 Recommendation

 

 Hi

 

 

 

 I am starting to set up an area in my garage that I can use as a

 workshop. The only power I have in the garage is a single 15 amp

 circuit. This powers a fridge, a freezer as well as lights, power

 receptacles and the garage door opener.

 

 

 

 I have a single breaker slot open on my power panel and plan to run

 an additional circuit. Assuming I run all my intermittent use tools

 (band saw / drill press) off the new circuit, will the new 15 AMP

 110V circuit be sufficient for a compressor as well. If so can anyone

 recommend an appropriate compressor given that I will not be

 painting? I have read about the Husky VT6315 from Home Depot on the

 list, but am wondering if this is overkill for my needs.  I have also

 read that some 15 amp compressors can cause breaker trips.

 

 

 

 Any guidance most welcome.

 

 

 

 Les

 

 RV10 wannabe

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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kearney(at)shaw.ca
Guest

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

Hi Everyone



Many thanks for all the informative replies. Based on my review of the

archives and the comments received, I will go with the Husky. 



Cheers



Les

RV10 Wannabe

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jwik(at)crary.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 5:07 am Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

Mine is mounted to the back side of the wall (hanger and shop are partitioned) feeding a hose reel on the wall in the shop.  Keeps the compressor from getting in the way and eliminates the annoyance when the compressor kicks in. The reel keeps hose out of the way when not using air.  

 

 linn Walters wrote: [quote]       If it were me, I'd put in a 20A breaker and run 12 Ga. wire.  The cost difference is pennies since you're going to add the circuit anyway.  Remember what you're protecting:  the wire.   There are a couple of reasons that the 15A breakers kick ..... they're operating on the edge of their capability and may also have smaller wire in the circuit.  My recommendations would be to get a 220 compressor, 10Ga. wire, and piggyback that on the smallest 220 breaker you have.   A good size tank is preferable too.  I don't know offhand what size my tank is, but it is a 6 HP upright tank model from Home Depot and cost me $300.  Probably a little highter now   .  If you get a bigger compressor, then you'll never get caught short down the road when you need the air.  I wish I had pictures of the two guys locally that manifolded two little 1 HP compressors together to get enough air!!!

 Linn

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 Les Kearney wrote:

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Hi     

      

I am starting to set up an area in my garage that I can use as a workshop. The only power I have in the garage is a single 15 amp circuit. This powers a fridge, a freezer as well as lights, power receptacles and the garage door opener.     

      

I have a single breaker slot open on my power panel and plan to run an additional circuit. Assuming I run all my intermittent use tools (band saw / drill press) off the new circuit, will the new 15 AMP 110V circuit be sufficient for a compressor as well. If so can anyone recommend an appropriate compressor given that I will not be painting? I have read about the Husky VT6315 from Home Depot on the list, but am wondering if this is overkill for my needs.  I have also read that some 15 amp compressors can cause breaker trips.     

      

Any guidance most welcome.     

      

Les     

RV10 wannabe     

      

      

      

       

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pascalreid(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 8:39 am Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

interestly Homedepot has the VT6315 as 5 HP as well, it's interesting 

because the CH VT6315 in the Campbell Hausfeld website states "2HP" for the 

compressor, they are the same compressor, I guess putting the "Husky" label 

on the compressor gives it a 3HP boost!

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 9:55 am Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

Actually, I know EXACTLY why the same pump is listed at 2 different

HP's.   When I got my VT6271 (I think that was the number), it wasn't

long after and I got notifications of a class-action lawsuit.

Eventually, if you had a compressor labeled with the higher HP

rating from certain years, you were entitled to file a claim and

get something like $50 of free product from CH.  It seems someone

got tired of misrepresentation of HP ratings on compressors,

and the lawsuit got going.  Mine was labeled properly, but I'm

sure this is why CH is listed lower.  If Husky got sued, they'd

probably drop their rating too, as would many/most other compressor

manufacturers of these small home shop compressors.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Pascal wrote:

[quote] 

 

 interestly Homedepot has the VT6315 as 5 HP as well, it's interesting 

 because the CH VT6315 in the Campbell Hausfeld website states "2HP" for 

 the compressor, they are the same compressor, I guess putting the 

 "Husky" label on the compressor gives it a 3HP boost!

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jjessen

Joined: 22 Apr 2006
Posts: 285
Location: OR

Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: Compressor Recommendation

Yup.  I got a notice about that.  Keep in mind that it's really the cubic

feet per minute or second that's the key.  They might exaggerate that, too,

but it'd be not as likely.  Remember the days when your cool stereo amp said

it could put out 500 watts of pure music power!  Ahhhhhh, the numbers game.

Go for quiet.  If you've got the room and the bucks, go 220 and big tank and

quiet.  Runs less and would be available for anything you'd throw at it.  



John J



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