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KiloPapa

Joined: 24 May 2006
Posts: 142
Location: Pearblossom, CA

Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: Aircraft Door Seal sample

Below is a picture of the sample door seal from I  received from Aircraft Door Seals, LLC.  

 I looks to be a firm texture closed cell foam with  a self-adhesive strip.  www.aircraftdoorseals.com

  

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GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:11 pm Post subject: Aircraft Door Seal sample

Kevin,

  

 I installed these in my Piper, and have been disappointed.  Not so  much with the product but how they've worked.  IMHO in the Piper the  location is not the best...it should be on the door and not in the  opening.  Feet catch on them along with hands and the rivets in the door  pull the foam away from the planes frame.

  

 In an experimental you can get your own closes cell foam and try with out  spending $70 to get similar results.  But please do what you think  best.  As I said I was disappointed with this product in a Cherokee and it  was most probably due to the foam location and not the product itself.

  

 Just  my opinion, though...

  

 Patrick

  

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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 4:49 am Post subject: Aircraft Door Seal sample

I would agree with Kevin.  While Dick Russ has modified his door seals for the Cherokee recently to address the issue of people ripping the lower seal while getting in and out of the aircraft, it is awkward at best.   If the seal is totally on the door, then there is almost no risk of getting damaged by passengers.  

   

         

  

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Kevin,  

    

   

    

I installed these in my Piper, and have been disappointed.  Not so much with the product but how they've worked.  IMHO in the Piper the location is not the best...it should be on the door and not in the opening.  Feet catch on them along with hands and the rivets in the door pull the foam away from the planes frame.  

    

   

    

In an experimental you can get your own closes cell foam and try with out spending $70 to get similar results.  But please do what you think best.  As I said I was disappointed with this product in a Cherokee and it was most probably due to the foam location and not the product itself.  

    

   

    

Just  my opinion, though...  

    

   

    

Patrick  

    

   

    

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Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:17 am Post subject: Aircraft Door Seal sample

How does this stuff differ from  weatherstripping I can buy at Lowes?  Sure looks the  same!

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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1706
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Sat Aug 26, 2006 8:31 pm Post subject: Aircraft Door Seal sample

It has a memory, so that once it has taken a set, it doesn't fight the 

door, but does provide a good seal. I don't think you will find any 

thing quite like it in the home depot/lowes type store.

Contrary to Patrick's experience, I have it on my plane, no problem, but 

I rarely carry anyone but my SO..so maybe we are more careful than the 

average passenger. It isn't a big deal to splice in a replacement piece 

if it does get damaged.

I'm curious about the comment that Dick Russ somehow changed the seal 

for the Cherokee? I don't see anything on his website to indicate any 

change.



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 How does this stuff differ from weatherstripping I can buy at Lowes?  

 Sure looks the same!

 

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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 7:51 am Post subject: Aircraft Door Seal sample

It's memory foam...and for a Piper they have an STC...Lowe's or HomeDepot  do not carry STC's...LOL

  

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Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 8:00 am Post subject: Aircraft Door Seal sample

In a message dated 8/27/2006 12:32:49 AM Eastern Standard Time,  kellym(at)aviating.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Contrary    to Patrick's experience, I have it on my plane, no problem, but 

I rarely    carry anyone but my SO..so maybe we are more careful than the 

average    passenger. It isn't a big deal to splice in a replacement piece 

if it does    get damaged.

	


 

 Kelly for the most part the damage was caused by the rivet heads that  pulled the tapped side away from the inside door...the damage/crap part was  mainly on the inside door jam and not on the opening as Dick likes to discuss  and tell us that is our going in and out of the door.  The product from the  guy in Washington State is placed on the door...the STC was written for the  wrong location...

  

 Patrick

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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Sun Aug 27, 2006 2:29 pm Post subject: Aircraft Door Seal sample

Well, I guess the shop heads on Piper rivets are sharper than those on 

the Mooney door. Don't know why that would be the case. He does NOT have 

an STC. His seal is FAA/PMA approved for Piper, Mooney and Cessna 

aircraft. The difference is log book entry vs filing a 337.



GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com wrote:

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		   In a message dated 8/27/2006 12:32:49 AM Eastern Standard Time, 

 kellym(at)aviating.com writes:

 

     Contrary to Patrick's experience, I have it on my plane, no problem,

     but

     I rarely carry anyone but my SO..so maybe we are more careful than the

     average passenger. It isn't a big deal to splice in a replacement piece

     if it does get damaged.

 

 Kelly for the most part the damage was caused by the rivet heads that 

 pulled the tapped side away from the inside door...the damage/crap part 

 was mainly on the inside door jam and not on the opening as Dick likes 

 to discuss and tell us that is our going in and out of the door.  The 

 product from the guy in Washington State is placed on the door...the STC 

 was written for the wrong location...

  

 Patrick

 

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