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wvu(at)ameritel.net
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 7:43 pm Post subject: Static Ports

I have a hard time keeping the static lines on the pop-rivet ports.   Any suggestions?

 Anh

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capsteve

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 111
Location: NIAGARA FALLS NY

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:10 pm Post subject: Static Ports

I really like the static ports from cleaveland tool, worth the $$....i didn’t rivet them, but I used structural epoxy and its looks great…  

Steve  

40205  

   

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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject: Static Ports

get some real static ports. See aircraft spruce http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/staticports2.php.  These will also take the nyflo fittings.

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dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 9:02 pm Post subject: Static Ports

I have read some comments that seem to say that the Vans static port kit is actually very accurate in spite of being cheap and simple. Does anybody have any comparison with the Aircraft Spruce and other more sophisticated systems? I know they look way better, but am interested in performance.

David Maib

40559 tailcone

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On Jul 17, 2006, at 11:24 PM, David McNeill wrote:

get some real static ports. See aircraft spruce http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/inpages/staticports2.php. These will also take the nyflo fittings.

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RV-10 #40559
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jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:33 pm Post subject: Static Ports

Will second that notion. I have responded many times before on the this  subject. Contact me off list if you need or want help. Somewhere you have  to turn the line 90 degrees to get it to the panel. I suggest using the ports  with female threads & the 90 degree adaptor fittings that screw into them.  Much more secure than "glued on" in a place that you can't visit/inspect/repair  that easily.  KABONG  HR II, 280hrs plus.  Do Not Archive

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VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 11:55 pm Post subject: Static Ports

I used epoxy on my 6 and have used on 10 as well.  

  

 Chris

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Tim(at)MyRV10.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:22 am Post subject: Static Ports

Anh, so far the responses are just like I'd say....probably just time to

get a good static port system.   Best now before you paint, so you don't

have to drill your tailcone after painting.  I have the Cleaveland.

I know some have questioned in the past which brands are accurate and

which have errors.  So far, it looks like mine are accurate.  I need

to fly the box to see if the precision is perfect, but they really

seem to be good right now.   My guess is that perhaps people had

issues with various ones in the past on other airframes, but on the

-10 they don't have much of a problem.....the placement has more to

do with the reading than the port, would be my guess.



So anyway, as usual, the best fix is probably just digging through

the sofa for some more quarters.   The nice thing about the ones

that I'm using is it has allowed me to use nice 1/4" ID Tygon tubing

that is real flexible and seals great with push-on fittings.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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JOHN STARN wrote:

[quote] Will second that notion. I have responded many times before on the this 

 subject. Contact me off list if you need or want help. Somewhere you 

 have to turn the line 90 degrees to get it to the panel. I suggest using 

 the ports with female threads & the 90 degree adaptor fittings that 

 screw into them. Much more secure than "glued on" in a place that you 

 can't visit/inspect/repair that easily.  KABONG  HR II, 280hrs plus.  Do 

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flysrv10(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 3:45 am Post subject: Static Ports

Proseal around the tube and the pop rivet.

 Rob Kermanj



 



On Jul 17, 2006, at 11:42 PM, DejaVu wrote:

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		  I have a hard time keeping the static lines on the pop-rivet ports.  Any suggestions?

Anh

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mike(at)learningplanet.co
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 6:51 am Post subject: Static Ports

On my -9A I installed the Static kit from SafeAir1 and I am glad I did. When I had my pitot/static/transponder test done, the tech found no leaks and commented that the number one problem that he sees with RV avionics is the use of those pop rivets. He couldn't imagine why someone would spend so much money on an airplane and nice avionics only to attach it to a cheap and unreliable static source.

Anyways, I'm sure there are folks who use the pop rivets with success. But I will be going with the SafeAir1 kit for the -10.



By the way, I'll be up at Oshkosh all week, camping with the -9A in the homebuilt camping area.



Regards,

Mike Schipper

RV-10 #40576 - Emp  - www.rvten.com

RV-9A  N63MS - Flying - www.my9a.com



On Jul 18, 2006, at 12:00 AM, David Maib wrote:

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		  I have read some comments that seem to say that the Vans static port kit is actually very accurate in spite of being cheap and simple. Does anybody have any comparison with the Aircraft Spruce and other more sophisticated systems? I know they look way better, but am interested in performance.

VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:07 am Post subject: Static Ports

There are thousands of RVs with Vans static kits.  We never had a problem.

  

 Chris

  

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jhstarn(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 10:59 am Post subject: Static Ports

You obviously have not talked to ALL those who tried to use, didn't like  the looks of, had to change, repair, re-attach and/or modify the  'cheapo" way. 

 "We never had a problem", ya'll must have a mouse in your  pocket. 

 I haven't keep track over the years how many have looked over our set  up at fly-ins, airshow, OSH etc & then asked for a parts list & how  to install instructions. 

 It's all in what you want in a finished product, that's why it's called an  "experimental" aircraft. To borrow from a Burger King slogan "You build it  your way".    KABONG  8*)    HRII Do Not  Archive

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danbenua(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:06 pm Post subject: Static Ports

I installed fancy flush static ports in my RV-6A, and

they worked fine until it started raining.  As water

droplets ran along the fuselage in flight, they wicked

into the static port holes and caused dramatic (~200')

altimeter and VSI gyrations.  Since I was on an IMC

approach at the time, I felt that a fix was needed.  



I solved it by drilling out the hole in each static

port, installing an LP4-3 pop rivet, and driving out

the mandrel; just like Van's suggested. The head of

the pop-rivet protruding above the skin surface is

just enough to keep the water drops away from the vent

hole.



On my RV-10 (not yet flying) I chose a compromise

solution.  I installed the pop-rivet static port as

per plans, but on the inside of the tailcone behind

each port I riveted fuel tank drain flanges (available

from Van's).  This allows for the installation of

threaded fittings (Nylo-Seal 269-N 04x02) that

transition to poly tubing (Poly-Flow 44-P).  This

solution gives a secure connection and a proven port

profile; and a very low cost.



- Dan Benua

#40001

finish & fwf



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		   I have read some comments that seem to say that the

Vans static port  
	


      kit is actually very accurate in spite of being

cheap and simple.  

      Does anybody have any comparison with the

Aircraft Spruce and other  

      more sophisticated systems? I know they look way

better, but am  

      interested in performance.

      

      David Maib

      40559 tailcone



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VHMUM(at)bigpond.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject: Static Ports

Ok your right Im wrong! 

  

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Dick Sipp

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 215
Location: Hope, MI

Posted: Tue Jul 18, 2006 7:13 pm Post subject: Static Ports

On 7/18/06 1046AM Michael Schipper wrote:

 On my -9A I installed the Static kit from SafeAir1 and I am  glad I did.

  

 I used the SafeAir1 pitot static kit as well.  Very easy  to install and a real time saver.  All the normal fittings are included in  the kit and  so far all of the necessary conversion couplings to go from  aluminum to SafeAir and from SafeAir lines to various components are  available.  With all the new avionics people are using there are more and  more pitot static drops required I.E. AOA, TruTrak ADI, encoder, stby  instruments, AHARS, etc.  I "stacked" the T drop fittings on top of each  other on a longer screw attached to the bottom flange of the subpanel.   This created a compact pitot and stactic "manifold" for the various required  "drops."

  

 Dick Sipp

 40065 finishing 

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