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dean.psiropoulos(at)veriz
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights Reply with quote

Those who have been here already...when you put the steam gauges in your
panel, how do you fit the ones with the knobs sticking out of one corner?
For the (United Instruments) altimeter it looks like I won't have a choice
and will have to hog out some of the corner of the panel where the knob goes
(big bump in the case under the knob). However, for the MD200 OBS (VOR/ILS
indicator) and the 2 inch G meter (Falcon Gauge) the knobs have small posts
that would likely fit through the screw hole if the knob were removed before
installing the gauge. Can the knobs on these gauges be removed prior to
installing the gauge and then re-attached afterwords? Or am I just going to
have to make a small slot between the cutout and the screw hole? Also, what
exactly is the bit size used to drill these screw holes? #6 screws???

Annunciator lights, I'd like to find some square ones with the colored
plastic and engraved text that shows what subsystem is having a problem
(commercial airline pilots know them well). I have had some great input
from an RV-6A pilot who rolled his own. I've perused the web quite a while
and haven't found much that might work for my application (mostly round
lampholders with colored lenses but you couldn't really engrave them with
text like I'm wanting). Any suggestions on this one? The only other option
I can see is to use the round lampholders and have engraved text underneath
each one with the subsystem being annunciated. Not the optimum solution but
given what I've found so far, looking more and more viable all the time
(probably simpler and quicker too). Thanks.

Dean Psiropoulos
RV-6A N197DM
Gonna fly this spring!!!


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:53 am    Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights Reply with quote

On 16 Jan 2006, at 24:52, DEAN PSIROPOULOS wrote:

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<dean.psiropoulos(at)verizon.net>

Those who have been here already...when you put the steam gauges in
your
panel, how do you fit the ones with the knobs sticking out of one
corner?
For the (United Instruments) altimeter it looks like I won't have a
choice
and will have to hog out some of the corner of the panel where the
knob goes
(big bump in the case under the knob). However, for the MD200 OBS
(VOR/ILS
indicator) and the 2 inch G meter (Falcon Gauge) the knobs have
small posts
that would likely fit through the screw hole if the knob were
removed before
installing the gauge. Can the knobs on these gauges be removed
prior to
installing the gauge and then re-attached afterwords? Or am I just
going to
have to make a small slot between the cutout and the screw hole?
Also, what
exactly is the bit size used to drill these screw holes? #6 screws???

I've got an MD200, and the Falcon G meter. Both need a cut out for
the knobs in the corner. The knob on the G meter is closer to the
hole than a screw hold would be, if I recall correctly, so don't
drill the holes until you have the gauge in your hands.

#6 screw = #28 drill bit.

Kevin Horton RV-8 (finishing kit)
Ottawa, Canada
http://www.kilohotel.com/rv8


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:24 am    Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights Reply with quote

kevin,
''hog out the corner''. been there last week. if you look careful you will
see the face of the alt. is built up around the shaft you are talking about.
that bit of panel needs to be removed to make it fit.
bob noffs
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 4:50 am    Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights Reply with quote

Why don't you lay the panel out in an AutoCAD compatible CAD program, when
everything is the way you want it, send the DFX file to a laser cutter and
be done with it. All 3 of my panel inserts were done that way, cost was
around $100 per panel including 0.090 aluminum sheet. The time saved was
tremendous.

Bruce
www.glasair.org


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 5:58 am    Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights Reply with quote

Dean: See
http://vx-aviation.com/page_2.html

Are these what you're looking for? The lamps are available individually
or as part of integrated controllers.

There are also NKK 'UB' series illuminators availabe from Digi-Key.
They must be panel mounted individually and are harder to install. I
think John Schroeder has used them for his Lancair.

Vern Little

DEAN PSIROPOULOS wrote:

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Annunciator lights, I'd like to find some square ones with the colored
plastic and engraved text that shows what subsystem is having a problem
(commercial airline pilots know them well). I have had some great input
from an RV-6A pilot who rolled his own. I've perused the web quite a while
and haven't found much that might work for my application (mostly round
lampholders with colored lenses but you couldn't really engrave them with
text like I'm wanting). Any suggestions on this one? ...









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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:00 am    Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights Reply with quote

A lot of the instrument MANUFACTURERS have mounting templates for their
instruments on their web sites; some of them in .pdf format that can be
printed actual size. It's probably a good idea to only use them for planning
purposes since, due to manufacturing tolerances, actual sizes may vary...

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 6:11 am    Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights Reply with quote

Dean,

Yes the knobs can be taken off. There should be a set screw in the knob.

For switches, Tyco makes a nice version. See their Command Series 16mm.
Available from www.Newarkinone.com stock number 46F3130. We used these
switches (164SL and 164SL5) and the same family lighted indicator (164-SZ)
in our install. Rather than engraving there is a plastic lens inside the
switch which can be screen printed. I had this done by Precision Dial Co.
(www.precisiondial.com) (I formerly owned the company).

Jim Butcher
Europa XS N241BW


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 7:55 am    Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights Reply with quote

Vern -

Thank you for the reference. I used the LB series lights - rectangular.
The also come in round and square shapes.

Cheers,

John
On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 05:57:00 -0800, rv-9a-online <rv-9a-online(at)telus.net>
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There are also NKK 'UB' series illuminators availabe from Digi-Key.
They must be panel mounted individually and are harder to install. I
think John Schroeder has used them for his Lancair.
Vern Little

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 1:26 pm    Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights Reply with quote

Bruce,

Who did tou use?
Peter
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Why don't you lay the panel out in an AutoCAD compatible CAD program, when
everything is the way you want it, send the DFX file to a laser cutter and
be done with it. All 3 of my panel inserts were done that way, cost was
around $100 per panel including 0.090 aluminum sheet. The time saved was
tremendous.

Bruce
www.glasair.org





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PostPosted: Mon Jan 16, 2006 2:13 pm    Post subject: Instrument install/annunciator lights Reply with quote

Aircraft Engravers, www.engravers.net, ask for Wayne.

Bruce
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