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michaelfly(at)earthlink.n
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 3:56 am    Post subject: rear seat throttle Reply with quote

I would like to install a throttle in the rear cockpit. I understand that
Vans has a drawing and looked at Spruce's throttle offers.
Any experience with this installation?
Michael Christmann


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 6:54 am    Post subject: rear seat throttle Reply with quote

I have Van's rear throttle kit. I did the lever a little different --
shorter and no bend. No probs and no regrets.

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I would like to install a throttle in the rear cockpit. I understand that
Vans has a drawing and looked at Spruce's throttle offers.
Any experience with this installation?
Michael Christmann



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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 9:08 am    Post subject: rear seat throttle Reply with quote

Michael, I installed Van's rear seat throttle in my 8A, but modified it due
to passengers hitting the throttle with their legs (unmodified it goes up then
is bent inboard).

Since I had the deluxe front throttle quadrant, which has a throttle like a
P-51 mustang, ie, the lever has in essence a piece of horizontal pipe bolted
to the throttle lever, I just duplicated the same thing in the back, using a
smaller diameter piece of tubing bolted to a shortened shaft. It looks great
and doesn't stick out where the passenger's leg can disturb it.

Just my 2 cents FWIW.

Walt Shipley Rv-8A 200+ hours, RV-8 under construction

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 7:23 pm    Post subject: rear seat throttle Reply with quote

Michael,
Me Three! I also installed a Van's rear seat throttle. I like it but like the others found it hit the rear seat occupant's left knee and considered it a safety issue so I cut it off at the bend. That works fine. I think I could have flown a year earlier without all of the little marginally useful extras I just had to have at the time and wonder if it was all worth it. A basic stock RV-8 would be 98% as cool as a decked out one. It would be lighter, fly earlier, and be a lot cheaper!

Dennis Flosi


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michele.delsol(at)microsi
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 02, 2006 11:20 pm    Post subject: rear seat throttle Reply with quote

Listers,

I am considering installing the full three lever deluxe quadrant for the
rear seat of my RV8 - any suggestions? Gus says it would interfere with the
rear pilot's left leg?? The link would be a straight rod for the throttle
lever, push/pull type cables for the other two.

Comments anyone?

Thanks,
Michele

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 5:42 am    Post subject: rear seat throttle Reply with quote

Miche'le

A three control quadrant in the aft seat will look good but is it really
practical? The front seat will always have a pilot in it. The aft seat
pilot will not have a good view of any mixture instrumentation, will not be
able to start the engine, and will have no need to shut down the engine.
The prop control is a little more useful but you have a voice activated one
built in. My experience has been that flying from the rear seat is limited
to demonstrations for new/prospective pilots and friends. No serious flying
is done back there. On the other hand whatever you like best is always the
best idea.

Paul Schattauer
RV8 808PS
[quote]From: Michèle Delsol <michele.delsol(at)microsigma.fr>
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Subject: RE: rear seat throttle
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 09:18:01 +0200


<michele.delsol(at)microsigma.fr>

Listers,

I am considering installing the full three lever deluxe quadrant for the
rear seat of my RV8 - any suggestions? Gus says it would interfere with the
rear pilot's left leg?? The link would be a straight rod for the throttle
lever, push/pull type cables for the other two.

Comments anyone?

Thanks,
Michele

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:02 am    Post subject: rear seat throttle Reply with quote

We have just installed the throttle lever in the back. I am going to
shorten it and no bend, this has two benefits (#1) As others have said it
will then NOT interfere with the rear passengers left leg and better yet
(#2) you can easily place a secure cover over it so when you take your
grandkids or kids for a ride they do not have access to it. Gary Bennett &
Jim Barrilleaux. ----- From: "Michèle Delsol"
<michele.delsol(at)microsigma.fr>
Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 12:18 AM
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<michele.delsol(at)microsigma.fr>

Listers,

I am considering installing the full three lever deluxe quadrant for the
rear seat of my RV8 - any suggestions? Gus says it would interfere with
the
rear pilot's left leg?? The link would be a straight rod for the throttle
lever, push/pull type cables for the other two.

Comments anyone?

Thanks,
Michele

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 7:27 am    Post subject: rear seat throttle Reply with quote

I know, I know, I tend to over do things. My initial intention was to grant
the rear seat pilot full flying capabilities in case, I, the front pilot,
passed out or something similar. In a side by side airplane, there is an
built in safety feature if the other person has piloting skill. In the 8,
all the rear pilot has is a stick. But then one can add things such as the
throttle, or the throttle and prop, rear pedals, a flap switch, a trim
switch (both disconnectable from the pilot's seat). Then there could be
basic instrumentation such as air speed, altitude, a backup radio, a backup
GPS...

Anyone gone that route?

Thanks,
Michele - RV8 Fuselage.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: rear seat throttle Reply with quote

ALL OF THE ABOVE AND WE LOVE IT
My RV8 has a rear seat throttle, prop control, and mixture as well as trims,
flap and full GPS. I'm 6 ft tall and weight 204 and I have no problem flying
from the back. I learned to land from the back which made front seat
landings a breeze since the rear rudders are less responsive than the front.
My wife is learning to (pinch hit )from the back in case she may have to fly
someday if I should become ill or worse. There are good things about keeping
it light and all but my BABY needs all the good stuff I can put in. If
weight becomes a problem I should lose 20 pounds.
Tom Scherder N38NE
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 3:09 am    Post subject: rear seat throttle Reply with quote

Hi Michele-

I thought about different ways of putting in a full set of controls in
back. I couldn't come up with anything I considered really practical so I
just went with the throttle and trims. The addition that would be most
valuable would probably be brakes, and of course that would be a bit of an
engineering feat.

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Listers,

I am considering installing the full three lever deluxe quadrant for the
rear seat of my RV8 - any suggestions? Gus says it would interfere with the
rear pilot's left leg?? The link would be a straight rod for the throttle
lever, push/pull type cables for the other two.

Comments anyone?

Thanks,
Michele


glen matejcek
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 7:49 am    Post subject: rear seat throttle Reply with quote

Thank you Tom, FINALLY someone admits the reality of weight control in
an airplane! I always laugh when I hear folks discussing doing this & that
to cut down an ounce here and an ounce there in their homebuilt, all the
while they carry the first step in weight control in their midsections.....
I am NO exception, probably 30 lbs worth.......Our RV8A will also have all
the IFR bells and whistles, damn the weight full speed ahead!!!!! Gary
Bennett
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:40 pm    Post subject: rear seat throttle Reply with quote

Gary,
Great reply. My flying buddy weighs 240 and I go 204.The great thing about
the RV8 is that we both fit just fine., even when we're flying to a new
airport restaurant. With 200 HP+ and a constant speed prop the little sky
dancer jumps off the runway in about 300 ft and cruises 22/24 at 160 kts.
Top speed at altitude is 194mph.The plane still came in at 1128 lbs with an
ostrich leather interior complete with side panels and rear armrests. We are
full IFR 2 GPS's and unless your stomach is a lot more stable than mine you
won't push the 6 G limit all that much. Keep pounding the rivets , it' all
worth it!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:47 pm    Post subject: rear seat throttle Reply with quote

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