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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 7:55 am    Post subject: 912 run on Reply with quote

I was syncing the carbs on my 912ul and tried to shut the engine down but turning off the ignition switches did absolutely nothing. I cycled them several time but the engine kept running. I finally shut off the fuel and waited for it to quit. I checked the grounding on the switches and everything was in order. The funny thing is the switches had been working fine before and have been since this occasion. The Rotax manual says this is possible if the engine is shut down hot but in this case the motor was barely warm.. Anyone have any ideas ?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 10:46 am    Post subject: 912 run on Reply with quote

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It is not possible for the engine to keep on running if the ignition switches are in the off position, and you said that you checked continuity to ground, correct?
It is very possible that as part of the carb sync you messed up with the aluminum tube that connects the two carbs together, this tube is located very close to the electronic ignition modules and it is possible that while messing with it, you actually broke the "kill" wires leading from the ignition switches in the cockpit to the electronic modules, I would suggest checking continuity to ground starting right on the kill connection at the module location itself.
 
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I was syncing the carbs  on my 912ul and tried to shut the engine down but turning off the ignition switches did absolutely nothing.  I cycled them several time but the engine kept running.   I finally shut off the fuel and waited for it to quit.  I  checked the grounding on the switches and everything was in order.  The funny thing is the switches had been working fine before and have been since this occasion.  The Rotax manual says this is possible if the engine is shut down hot but in this case the motor was barely warm..  Anyone have any ideas ?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 11:29 am    Post subject: 912 run on Reply with quote

EG:
Did the engine run smooth after you shut off the ignition switches?  If so then check the grounding of your switches again.  Check further down the wiring not just at the switch to ground.
If the engine ran rough then you could have a HOT SPOT in one or more cylinders.  A hot spot can cause run-on, dieseling, and pre-ignition.  If this is the case check the plugs first, then the area inside the cylinders where the plugs screw into.  You are LQQKing small hang-nails of metal.  These will heat up, hold the temps and fire-off a fuel air mixture.


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I was syncing the carbs  on my 912ul and tried to shut the engine down but turning off the ignition switches did absolutely nothing.  I cycled them several time but the engine kept running.   I finally shut off the fuel and waited for it to quit.  I  checked the grounding on the switches and everything was in order.  The funny thing is the switches had been working fine before and have been since this occasion.  The Rotax manual says this is possible if the engine is shut down hot but in this case the motor was barely warm..  Anyone have any ideas ?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 07, 2014 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: 912 run on Reply with quote

I would look at grounding at the ignition switch and up at the ignition modules on the 6 pin connectors. White wire in the corner.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 912 run on Reply with quote

Exact same thing happened to me about 50 engine hours ago. I tried reaching under the instrument panel to ground the switch terminals - no luck. Finally just let it run out of fuel. Next time it worked just fine, and has for over a year. Can't explain it.......Fred

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