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ogdenk

Joined: 05 Feb 2007
Posts: 41
Location: Syracuse, NY

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:38 am Post subject: Roll Servo Wiring for RV-10

Hi all,

  

 I am trying to get my wings closed up on my RV-10, but I would like to get all the wiring in first if possible.  I haven't decided on an autopilot yet, but I was wondering if the roll servos that are out there would use a more or less similar wiring harness.  If, for example, I got a SteinAir wiring harness for a Trutrak servo, would it be compatible with another AP?  I guess I don't know how many different servos there are, do different AP's use basically the same servos?

  

 Kent

  

 

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 8:47 am Post subject: Roll Servo Wiring for RV-10

You may be able to use the same wires perhaps relocating a few pins but the servos differ depending on which autopilot you use.  I switched from a blue mountain system to a truetrac and was able to use the same wires already installed just had to relocate the pins.



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On Nov 19, 2013, at 11:36 AM, "Kent Ogden" <ogdenk(at)upstate.edu (ogdenk(at)upstate.edu)> wrote:



[quote]    Hi all,

  

 I am trying to get my wings closed up on my RV-10, but I would like to get all the wiring in first if possible.  I haven't decided on an autopilot yet, but I was wondering if the roll servos that are out there would use a more or less similar wiring harness.  If, for example, I got a SteinAir wiring harness for a Trutrak servo, would it be compatible with another AP?  I guess I don't know how many different servos there are, do different AP's use basically the same servos?

  

 Kent

  

 

 

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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 9:28 am Post subject: Roll Servo Wiring for RV-10

On 11/19/2013 11:36 AM, Kent Ogden       wrote:

       I would determine the max number of wires required for any AP       servo, then get the Trutrak harness with any extra wires bundled       in with it.  That number is probably zero.  Stein can probably       answer that one off the top of his head.

       

       You will find you have plenty of access for adding/changing the       terminating plug once the wing is closed up.  But routing the wire       is much easier before you close things.  A good service loop is       desirable at that servo location in any case.  Go for it.

       

       Bill

     

     

     [quote]       Hi all,

        

       I am trying to get my wings closed up on my RV-10, but I         would like to get all the wiring in first if possible.  I         haven't decided on an autopilot yet, but I was wondering if the         roll servos that are out there would use a more or less similar         wiring harness.  If, for example, I got a SteinAir wiring         harness for a Trutrak servo, would it be compatible with another         AP?  I guess I don't know how many different servos there are,         do different AP's use basically the same servos?

        

       Kent

        

       

          

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Kellym

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1700
Location: Sun Lakes AZ

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:42 am Post subject: Roll Servo Wiring for RV-10

Dynon sells 20" servo wire bundles which IIRC were 5 wire, which are 

specific to their servos. I do know Trutrak wiring is different, even 

though the servos physically interchange with each other. Dynon did a 

fair amount of development to magnify force and travel for their RV-10 

elevator servo. I don't know what the others have, the Dynon was a 

simple install...drill a few holes and bolt it in. Well thought out.

On 11/19/2013 10:27 AM, Bill Watson wrote:

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		   On 11/19/2013 11:36 AM, Kent Ogden wrote:

 I would determine the max number of wires required for any AP servo, 

 then get the Trutrak harness with any extra wires bundled in with it.  

 That number is probably zero.  Stein can probably answer that one off 

 the top of his head.

 You will find you have plenty of access for adding/changing the 

 terminating plug once the wing is closed up.  But routing the wire is 

 much easier before you close things.  A good service loop is desirable 

 at that servo location in any case.  Go for it.

 Bill

> Hi all,

> I am trying to get my wings closed up on my RV-10, but I would like 

> to get all the wiring in first if possible.  I haven't decided on an 

> autopilot yet, but I was wondering if the roll servos that are out 

> there would use a more or less similar wiring harness.  If, for 

> example, I got a SteinAir wiring harness for a Trutrak servo, would 

> it be compatible with another AP?  I guess I don't know how many 

> different servos there are, do different AP's use basically the same 

> servos?

> Kent

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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:57 am Post subject: Roll Servo Wiring for RV-10

Kent,



Please send your question to Chuck Busch at Trio Avionics in California. We have bought the Trio Pro Pilot and Gold Series servos for our Sportsman. Although we aren't flying yet, I still think Trio is the top of the heap for auto pilots in experimental aircraft. 

 



Email him at ezflyr82(at)cox.net (ezflyr82(at)cox.net) or  info(at)trioavionics.com (info(at)trioavionics.com) 

He's a super nice guy. I always make it a point to talk to him and the Trio team at Oshkosh and Sun 'n Fun. If you ever get the chance, either in person or on the phone, have Chuck explain the special, unique features of the Gold Series servos. You'll be amazed.

 



I'm copying him on this email so he'll know of your question.

Dee



DeWitt (Dee) Whittington Richmond, VA

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On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)> wrote:

[quote] --> AeroElectric-List message posted by: Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com (kellym(at)aviating.com)>

 

 Dynon sells 20" servo wire bundles which IIRC were 5 wire, which are specific to their servos. I do know Trutrak wiring is different, even though the servos physically interchange with each other. Dynon did a fair amount of development to magnify force and travel for their RV-10 elevator servo. I don't know what the others have, the Dynon was a simple install...drill a few holes and bolt it in. Well thought out. 

 

 On 11/19/2013 10:27 AM, Bill Watson wrote:

 

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		   On 11/19/2013 11:36 AM, Kent Ogden wrote:

 I would determine the max number of wires required for any AP servo, then get the Trutrak harness with any extra wires bundled in with it.  That number is probably zero.  Stein can probably answer that one off the top of his head.

  

 You will find you have plenty of access for adding/changing the terminating plug once the wing is closed up.  But routing the wire is much easier before you close things.  A good service loop is desirable at that servo location in any case.  Go for it.

  

 Bill

 

 

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		   Hi all,

 I am trying to get my wings closed up on my RV-10, but I would like to get all the wiring in first if possible.  I haven't decided on an autopilot yet, but I was wondering if the roll servos that are out there would use a more or less similar wiring harness.  If, for example, I got a SteinAir wiring harness for a Trutrak servo, would it be compatible with another AP?  I guess I don't know how many different servos there are, do different AP's use basically the same servos?

  Kent

 



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Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:56 pm Post subject: Roll Servo Wiring for RV-10

Kent Ogden wrote:

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		   Hi all,

 I am trying to get my wings closed up on my RV-10, but I would like to 

 get all the wiring in first if possible.  I haven't decided on an 

 autopilot yet, but I was wondering if the roll servos that are out 

 there would use a more or less similar wiring harness.  If, for 

 example, I got a SteinAir wiring harness for a Trutrak servo, would it 

 be compatible with another AP?  I guess I don't know how many 

 different servos there are, do different AP's use basically the same 

 servos?

 Kent



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bakerocb

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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 9:57 am Post subject: Roll Servo Wiring for RV-10

11/20/2013

  

 Hello Kent, One way to solve the problem of getting wires from the fuselage  to the wing tip, for now and in the future, is to install a thin wall plastic  tube like sprinkler systems use in the wing as a conduit to run the wires  within. Very easy to snake in additional wires if required.

  

 â€˜OCâ€™

  

 'O C' Baker  says "The best investment you can make is the effort to gather and understand  information."

  

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Time: 08:38:10 AM PST US

From: "Kent Ogden"  <ogdenk(at)upstate.edu (ogdenk(at)upstate.edu)>

Subject: Roll Servo Wiring for  RV-10



Hi all,



I am trying to get my wings closed up on my RV-10,  but I would like to get 

all the wiring in first if possible.  I haven't  decided on an autopilot 

yet, but I was wondering if the roll servos that are  out there would use a 

more or less similar wiring harness.  If, for  example, I got a SteinAir 

wiring harness for a Trutrak servo, would it be  compatible with another 

AP?  I guess I don't know how many different  servos there are, do 

different AP's use basically the same  servos?



Kent



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Robert Reed

Joined: 22 Oct 2009
Posts: 331
Location: Dallas/Ft.Worth

Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 10:58 am Post subject: Roll Servo Wiring for RV-10

One additional hint....always pull a string through with the wire and tie off at both ends.  That way you have a pull line to use if you ever need to add an additional wire for some reason.  

 

BOB

     

   From: Owen Baker <bakerocb(at)cox.net>

 To: ogdenk(at)upstate.edu; aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com 

 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 11:56 AM

 Subject: Roll Servo Wiring for RV-10

  

 

     11/20/2013

  

 Hello Kent, One way to solve the problem of getting wires from the fuselage  to the wing tip, for now and in the future, is to install a thin wall plastic  tube like sprinkler systems use in the wing as a conduit to run the wires  within. Very easy to snake in additional wires if required.

  

 â€˜OCâ€™

  

 'O C' Baker  says "The best investment you can make is the effort to gather and understand  information."

  

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Time: 08:38:10 AM PST US

From: "Kent Ogden"  <ogdenk(at)upstate.edu (ogdenk(at)upstate.edu)>

Subject: AeroElectric-List: Roll Servo Wiring for  RV-10



Hi all,



I am trying to get my wings closed up on my RV-10,  but I would like to get 

all the wiring in first if possible.  I haven't  decided on an autopilot 

yet, but I was wondering if the roll servos that are  out there would use a 

more or less similar wiring harness.  If, for  example, I got a SteinAir 

wiring harness for a Trutrak servo, would it be  compatible with another 

AP?  I guess I don't know how many different  servos there are, do 

different AP's use basically the same  servos?



Kent



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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:45 pm Post subject: Roll Servo Wiring for RV-10

At 12:56 PM 11/20/2013, you wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  One additional hint....always pull a string through with the wire and tie off at both ends.  That way you have a pull line to use if you ever need to add an additional wire for some reason.  

  

 BOB 	


   Yeah . . . but be sure to pull a new string in with the new

   wires or you only get to do it the easy way once . . .



 

 

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Robert Reed

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Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 12:56 pm Post subject: Roll Servo Wiring for RV-10

Been there, done that, have recorded the choice words for posterity.  

 

Thanks,

 

Bob

     

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 To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com  

 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:44 PM

 Subject: Re: Roll Servo Wiring for RV-10

  

 

   At 12:56 PM 11/20/2013, you wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  One additional hint....always pull a string through with the wire and tie off at both ends.  That way you have a pull line to use if you ever need to add an additional wire for some reason.  

  

 BOB 	


   Yeah . . . but be sure to pull a new string in with the new

   wires or you only get to do it the easy way once . . .



 

   [quote]  Bob . . .




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Posted: Fri Nov 22, 2013 5:33 am Post subject: Roll Servo Wiring for RV-10

Depending on how tight the existing wire bundle is, you can tie a cotton  wad onto a string and pull it through with a shop vac.

  

 OR, I have pushed a 1/4â€ polyethylene tubing (which is stiffer than the  wire)  through the conduit, then pushed the wire through the tubing and  then pulled the 1/4â€ tube out, leaving the wire. 

    

  From: Robert Reed (robertr237(at)att.net) 

 Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 2:53 PM

 To: aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com (aeroelectric-list(at)matronics.com)  

 Subject: Re: Roll Servo Wiring for  RV-10

  



   Been there, done that, have recorded the choice words for  posterity.  

  

 Thanks,

  

 Bob

  

    

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Sent: Wednesday, November 20,  2013 2:44 PM

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		  One additional    hint....always pull a string through with the wire and tie off at both    ends.  That way you have a pull line to use if you ever need to add an    additional wire for some reason.  

 

BOB 	


   Yeah . . . but be sure to pull a new string in with the new

  wires or  you only get to do it the easy way once . . .

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