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N6030X(at)DaveMorris.com
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 Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:52 am Post subject: FAA MAY TAKE AWAY PANEL-MOUNT OPTION FOR PORTABLE GPS |
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The government is always so helpful when it comes
to halting advances in safety dead in their
tracks. What ever happened to government "of, by, and for the people"?
Dave Morris
At 10:14 AM 2/2/2007, you wrote:
| Quote: | Looks like Big Brother is trying to help again.
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FAA MAY TAKE AWAY PANEL-MOUNT OPTION FOR PORTABLE GPS
Think your portable GPS would work great mounted
to your old Cessna 172's instrument panel? If
the FAA has its way, you won't be able to mount
it. The partspanel dock and connective
wiringneeded to mount your portable GPS would
either no longer be available or be too
expensive to buy. The FAA's proposal would make
it illegal for manufacturers to produce a
replacement or modification part if they know
(or should know) the part would end up installed
in a certified aircraftthat is unless they
obtain production approval from the agency. But
that costs tens of thousands of dollars,
something many companies can't afford. While
AOPA agrees production approval is necessary for
critical parts like connecting rods and
cylinders, it isn't needed for non-critical
parts like a portable GPS panel dock or traffic
detector that enhance pilot safety. See
<http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2007/070201parts.html>AOPA Online.
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BobsV35B(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:10 am Post subject: FAA MAY TAKE AWAY PANEL-MOUNT OPTION FOR PORTABLE GPS |
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In a message dated 2/2/2007 11:04:39 A.M. Central Standard Time, N6030X(at)DaveMorris.com writes:
| Quote: | The government is always so helpful when it comes
to halting advances in safety dead in their
tracks. What ever happened to government "of, by, and for the people"?
Dave Morris
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Good Morning Dave,
I hope the list won't mind if I submit something I sent to the Bonanza group.
Good Morning All,
This has a parallel in the way the FAA handled LORAN.
When small LORAN C sets for boats first became readily available, it didn't
take long for many aircraft owners to mount such units in their airplanes.
At first, the FAA fought it strongly.
Finally, they were overwhelmed by the deluge and decided that if the pilots
were going to insist on mounting those LORANs, their best chance of getting
involved was to embrace the LORAN use, but to require that it be an FAA
approved installation. That doubled or tripled the cost of the units and it slowed
the rate of improvements drastically, but we did finally get the anointed
sets legally into our flying machines.
If we allow the FAA to get in on this act, you can say goodbye to having the
latest and best technology available for your enroute weather evaluations.
And you may make a wild guess as to the relative increase in cost that will
apply.
The worst thing that can happen to any technology is to have standards
applied to it's dissemination.
I have said it before, but I think it bears repeating.
Standardization is the mortal enemy of innovation.
Unfortunately, we in aviation regularly insist on standardization in the
hope it will lead to greater safety and ease of use.
We are our own worst enemy!
The FAA is merely doing what we want done.
Shame on us for asking that they do so and shame on us for letting it happen.
For those of you who are angry about Phil's use of a jet, swallow your
pride, rejoin AOPA and insist that they fight to keep the FAA from attacking the
installation of aids that we want in the manner we want them to be available.
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 2/2/2007 9:34:38 A.M. Central Standard Time,
beechparts(at)sbcglobal.net writes:
FAA MAY TAKE AWAY PANEL-MOUNT OPTION FOR PORTABLE GPS
Think your portable GPS would work great mounted to your old Cessna 172's
instrument panel? If the FAA has its way, you won't be able to mount it. The
parts-panel dock and connective wiring-needed to mount your portable GPS would
either no longer be available or be too expensive to buy. The FAA's proposal
would make it illegal for manufacturers to produce a replacement or
modification part if they know (or should know) the part would end up installed in a
certified aircraft-that is unless they obtain production approval from the
agency. But that costs tens of thousands of dollars, something many companies
can't afford. While AOPA agrees production approval is necessary for critical
parts like connecting rods and cylinders, it isn't needed for non-critical
parts like a portable GPS panel dock or traffic detector that enhance pilot
safety. See AOPA Online.
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CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:18 am Post subject: FAA MAY TAKE AWAY PANEL-MOUNT OPTION FOR PORTABLE GPS |
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In that case please designate us as "Reble Underground Manufacturers" and we'll fabricate the parts, we will designate them "For Lawn Tractor Use Only"
...Chrissi
CG Products
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CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:31 am Post subject: FAA MAY TAKE AWAY PANEL-MOUNT OPTION FOR PORTABLE GPS |
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At an airshow we talked to several military pilots, due to the slow grind at getting quality upgrades it had become common for them to home brew their own. The industry innovates and outpaces the approval and implimentation process so much that it should be standard to just have blank panel area available with a robust power supply (read that as bloody fool proof) and let them have at it. As long as it does not interfere with anything and cannot bring the system power down whats the difference between an MP3 player and a GPS?.. its non of anybody else's business.
...Chrissi
CG Products
www.CozyGirrrl.com
Cozy Mk-IV RG 13B-turbo
Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details
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CozyGirrrl(at)aol.com
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| Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:32 am Post subject: FAA MAY TAKE AWAY PANEL-MOUNT OPTION FOR PORTABLE GPS |
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Opps, spell that "Rebel" , not enough caffeen yet
CG Products
www.CozyGirrrl.com
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Plans #957 Chapter? big pieces done, details, details
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fvalarm(at)rapidnet.net
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| Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 10:59 am Post subject: FAA MAY TAKE AWAY PANEL-MOUNT OPTION FOR PORTABLE GPS |
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Another reason to stay away from "certified" aircraft.
Bevan
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mlas(at)cox.net
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| Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:56 am Post subject: FAA MAY TAKE AWAY PANEL-MOUNT OPTION FOR PORTABLE GPS |
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Bevan,
Remember, if it looks like your having to much fun in your experimental
plane, they just might change the rules.
Mike
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