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				|  Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 5:46 pm    Post subject: Vertical Power VP-100 opinions ? |   |  
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				| a friend is selling his VP-100 he never installed ( went with VPX ).  anybody flies with it ? is it worth spending time and money on ?
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Vertical Power VP-100 opinions ? |   |  
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				| Fuses cost less and weigh less.  You can replace them yourself.
There is no black box to fail and ground the plane.
 
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				|  Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 7:00 pm    Post subject: Vertical Power VP-100 opinions ? |   |  
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				| I have two VP-200 systems one in the RV-6 and the other in my 
RV-8.  I LOVE the VP-xxx, highly recommend!  Checkout
 http://www.mattsrv8.com and http://www.mattsrv6.com for details on
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 Matt
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				|  Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:24 pm    Post subject: Vertical Power VP-100 opinions ? |   |  
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				| Power Distribution in a little  airplane is a pretty straight-forward proposition.  We have a small number of circuits and we are sitting right in front of the panel.  Remotely-operated electronic-circuit breakers are great in an airliner, but overkill for our little airplanes.  The VP systems are a lot of  complexity to do a simple task.
 I realize that the VP systems do a little more than distribute power, but not enough to justify the cost. Here are my concerns.  VP systems are:
 1. a complex solution to a simple problem
 2. expensive
 3. not serviceable by you
 
 4. if it fails it could ground your airplane (all your eggs in one basket)
 
 I know a couple of people who have VP hardware who are "tweakers". They really enjoy configuring things and continually making adjustments (tweaking), simply for the fun of it.  If that's your game, then maybe VP is for you.  VP offers a lot of choices & freedom to pre-program behaviors and inter-connect things.
 
 When it comes to Power Distribution in my airplane, I want the simplest, most robust, closest-to-the-metal system I can get, especially since I plan to fly IFR.  Good old circuit breakers get the job done with a price tag with one less zero.  There are plenty of systems/gizmos in experimental aircraft to "tweak" but getting power to the panel should not be one of them.
 -Jeff
 
 On Sunday, January 17, 2021, 7:08:48 PM PST, Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> wrote:
 
 
 
 
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 I have two VP-200 systems one in the RV-6 and the other in my
 
 RV-8.  I LOVE the VP-xxx, highly recommend!  Checkout
 
 [url=http://www.mattsrv8.com ]http://www.mattsrv8.com [/url]and [url=http://www.mattsrv6.com ]http://www.mattsrv6.com [/url]for details on
 
 both installations.
 
 Matt
 
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				|  Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2021 7:39 am    Post subject: Re: Vertical Power VP-100 opinions ? |   |  
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				| I would advise against it.  
 From Vertical Power back in 2015.
 
 
  	  | Quote: |  	  | Product obsolescence usually brings angst with both customers and their supplier. We at Astronics Ballard Technology had an unusual situation with the acquisition of the Vertical Power products. As many of you may know, we acquired only the VP-X Sport and the VP-X Pro products, plus bins and boxes of all kinds of parts. As a service to the community, we continued to provide repair support for already obsolete products such as the VP-50/VP-100/VP-200 whenever possible. However, we are now out of most the useable parts and many are no longer attainable. Therefore, we are discontinuing factory service support for these already obsoleted units. If you have one of these units and would like to upgrade to a VP-Pro, please contact Chad Jensen to discuss options. | 
 
 If you want an electronic power distribution system, I would suggest the VPX.
 
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