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prhutson



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:30 pm    Post subject: Pricing used Kolbs Reply with quote

I note several Kolbs for sale on Barnstormers, both Firestar 2 and Mark 3 (presumably Classics). How does one decide what a fair asking (and thus buying) price is? I note Firestars that seem to have a 2-fold difference in price. Is it usually based upon engine hours? Even on 2-strokes?

Related to buying used Kolbs, what should a prospective buyer look for that would decrease the offered price (or make one run away)?
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Paul


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Frankd



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:45 am    Post subject: Re: Pricing used Kolbs Reply with quote

Hello Paul,
There have been several very good articles written in the EAA experimenter magazine recently on buying an aircraft. In summary they say to get a third party condition inspection before you buy.
I cannot discuss the firestar2 as I don’t know the aircraft but I do have a mkIII Xtra.
If I were buying a 2nd hand kolb I would look for the following 4 major things..
1/ Engine condition. Run a compression test and borescope the cylinders. Check the logs and maintenance records. Check the hours. An engine that was run consistently may be better than one that sat. Again check for corrosion.
2/ Airframe. Is it built to plans and is there any corrosion. Check for hanger rash, dents, dings etc. Again check the logs. Is everything built to aircraft standards
3/ Covering. Is the covering and paint condition airworthy. How was it stored? Do a punch test on the fabric if possible.
4/ Avionics. What is in the aircraft and how old? Avionics can be expensive.

If you are not familiar with aircraft inspection get an A&P friend to look at it.

These are my recommendations based on my experience of what can go wrong. Good luck.
FrankD


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:46 am    Post subject: Re: Pricing used Kolbs Reply with quote

Hello Paul,
There have been several very good articles written in the EAA experimenter magazine recently on buying an aircraft. In summary they say to get a third party condition inspection before you buy.
I cannot discuss the firestar2 as I don’t know the aircraft but I do have a mkIII Xtra.
If I were buying a 2nd hand kolb I would look for the following 4 major things..
1/ Engine condition. Run a compression test and borescope the cylinders. Check the logs and maintenance records. Check the hours. An engine that was run consistently may be better than one that sat. Again check for corrosion.
2/ Airframe. Is it built to plans and is there any corrosion. Check for hanger rash, dents, dings etc. Again check the logs. Is everything built to aircraft standards
3/ Covering. Is the covering and paint condition airworthy. How was it stored? Do a punch test on the fabric if possible.
4/ Avionics. What is in the aircraft and how old? Avionics can be expensive.

If you are not familiar with aircraft inspection get an A&P friend to look at it.

These are my recommendations based on my experience of what can go wrong. Good luck.
FrankD


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chic



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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Pricing used Kolbs Reply with quote

Here is one1 https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/avo/d/rancho-cucamonga-kolb-firestar/7228351683.html

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