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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 6:20 pm    Post subject: Northern May fall color flight 10/13/2018 Reply with quote

I changed the subject line, John. I thought you might enjoy this video. The music leaves a lot to be desired.
https://youtu.be/jB9sOPQf2AE
George H.
Firestar
Mesick, Michigan
gdhelton(at)gmail.com (gdhelton(at)gmail.com)
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On Oct 19, 2018, at 8:19 PM, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)> wrote:
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I don't know why folks insist on using plastic fuel line. It's an ultralight thing I guess. Stuff is dangerous. Some that use urethane fuel line say they need it so they can see the fuel?????

Way back in prehistoric days of my ultralighting, I automatically used urethane because that's what came in the kits and everyone else was using it.
 
After some problems I changed over to neoprene rubber fuel line many years ago.  Never had a problem with it. Last for a very long time. It has been around for a very long time. But I can't see my fuel.....

john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama

From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Charlie England
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:42 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: urethane fuel (??) line


Well, after a year of distractions, I got back on the Kolb this afternoon, hoping to get it flying for our annual Pumpkin Drop here at Slobovia Outernational (MS71). It's been sitting for about 11 months, with the fuel I put in it last year. Non-ethanol premium mogas is what I put in it. I decided to drain the tank to add fresh fuel, so I added some line to the fuel output line (to reach a gas can) and blew into it to pressurize the tank & start fuel flowing. Got great pressure with one lung of air, but only air came back out the line. Finally pulled the fitting (installed in the top of the tank) and it came out with about an inch of the urethane flex line I used to reach the bottom of the tank, with a pickup filter on the other end. You can see in the pic what the pickup line looks like. Strange thing is, the lines on the outside of the tank are in good shape, even though they came off the same roll of fuel line and still have fuel in them.



I guess I'll replace with some teflon lined a/c grade stainless flex line. I must say, I'm a bit surprised that it would rot this badly, this quickly. I thought annual replacement was a precaution; not a "I hope I get this before I die" kind of thing.



BTW, if you're within striking distance of Jackson MS, come on down for the Pumpkin Drop. Contact info on the flier attached.



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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:15 pm    Post subject: Northern May fall color flight 10/13/2018 Reply with quote

Beautiful color.

I caught some nice color out of Marysvale, Utah, a few weeks back.  Snow is coming.

john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama

From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of George Helton
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:20 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Northern May fall color flight 10/13/2018

I changed the subject line, John. I thought you might enjoy this video. The music leaves a lot to be desired.

https://youtu.be/jB9sOPQf2AE

George H.

Firestar

Mesick, Michigan

gdhelton(at)gmail.com (gdhelton(at)gmail.com)
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 19, 2018, at 8:19 PM, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)> wrote:
Quote:

I don't know why folks insist on using plastic fuel line. It's an ultralight thing I guess. Stuff is dangerous. Some that use urethane fuel line say they need it so they can see the fuel?????

Way back in prehistoric days of my ultralighting, I automatically used urethane because that's what came in the kits and everyone else was using it.

After some problems I changed over to neoprene rubber fuel line many years ago. Never had a problem with it. Last for a very long time. It has been around for a very long time. But I can't see my fuel......

john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama

From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Charlie England
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:42 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: urethane fuel (??) line


Well, after a year of distractions, I got back on the Kolb this afternoon, hoping to get it flying for our annual Pumpkin Drop here at Slobovia Outernational (MS71). It's been sitting for about 11 months, with the fuel I put in it last year. Non-ethanol premium mogas is what I put in it. I decided to drain the tank to add fresh fuel, so I added some line to the fuel output line (to reach a gas can) and blew into it to pressurize the tank & start fuel flowing. Got great pressure with one lung of air, but only air came back out the line. Finally pulled the fitting (installed in the top of the tank) and it came out with about an inch of the urethane flex line I used to reach the bottom of the tank, with a pickup filter on the other end. You can see in the pic what the pickup line looks like. Strange thing is, the lines on the outside of the tank are in good shape, even though they came off the same roll of fuel line and still have fuel in them.



I guess I'll replace with some teflon lined a/c grade stainless flex line. I must say, I'm a bit surprised that it would rot this badly, this quickly. I thought annual replacement was a precaution; not a "I hope I get this before I die" kind of thing.



BTW, if you're within striking distance of Jackson MS, come on down for the Pumpkin Drop. Contact info on the flier attached.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2018 7:19 pm    Post subject: Northern May fall color flight 10/13/2018 Reply with quote

Yup, same up here. That may have been my last flight of the year.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2018, at 11:12 PM, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)> wrote:
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<![endif]--> <![endif]-->
Beautiful color.

I caught some nice color out of Marysvale, Utah, a few weeks back. Snow is coming.

john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama

From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of George Helton
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:20 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Northern May fall color flight 10/13/2018

I changed the subject line, John. I thought you might enjoy this video. The music leaves a lot to be desired.

https://youtu.be/jB9sOPQf2AE

George H.

Firestar

Mesick, Michigan

gdhelton(at)gmail.com (gdhelton(at)gmail.com)
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 19, 2018, at 8:19 PM, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)> wrote:
Quote:

I don't know why folks insist on using plastic fuel line. It's an ultralight thing I guess.  Stuff is dangerous. Some that use urethane fuel line say they need it so they can see the fuel?????

Way back in prehistoric days of my ultralighting, I automatically used urethane because that's what came in the kits and everyone else was using it.

After some problems I changed over to neoprene rubber fuel line many years ago. Never had a problem with it. Last for a very long time. It has been around for a very long time. But I can't see my fuel......

john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama

From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Charlie England
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:42 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: urethane fuel (??) line


Well, after a year of distractions, I got back on the Kolb this afternoon, hoping to get it flying for our annual Pumpkin Drop here at Slobovia Outernational (MS71). It's been sitting for about 11 months, with the fuel I put in it last year. Non-ethanol premium mogas is what I put in it. I decided to drain the tank to add fresh fuel, so I added some line to the fuel output line (to reach a gas can) and blew into it to pressurize the tank & start fuel flowing. Got great pressure with one lung of air, but only air came back out the line. Finally pulled the fitting (installed in the top of the tank) and it came out with about an inch of the urethane flex line I used to reach the bottom of the tank, with a pickup filter on the other end. You can see in the pic what the pickup line looks like. Strange thing is, the lines on the outside of the tank are in good shape, even though they came off the same roll of fuel line and still have fuel in them.



I guess I'll replace with some teflon lined a/c grade stainless flex line. I must say, I'm a bit surprised that it would rot this badly, this quickly. I thought annual replacement was a precaution; not a "I hope I get this before I die" kind of thing.



BTW, if you're within striking distance of Jackson MS, come on down for the Pumpkin Drop. Contact info on the flier attached.



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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 6:12 am    Post subject: Northern May fall color flight 10/13/2018 Reply with quote

George
What time of the day was the flight? The colors are wonderful. Thanks. You have a giggle that detracts. On my MKIII I mount the camera on the wing strut right where the jury strut attaches. The wings seem to dapen engine vibrations. 
The fall colors were early this year and I had hoped to get a flight in to record them also but the weather didn't cooperate. We left for Florida the day before your flight.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 11:21 PM George Helton <gdhelton(at)gmail.com (gdhelton(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
Yup, same up here. That may have been my last flight of the year.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2018, at 11:12 PM, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)> wrote:
Quote:

Beautiful color.
 
I caught some nice color out of Marysvale, Utah, a few weeks back.  Snow is coming.
 
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
 
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of George Helton
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:20 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Northern May fall color flight 10/13/2018
 
I changed the subject line, John. I thought you might enjoy this video. The music leaves a lot to be desired.

https://youtu.be/jB9sOPQf2AE

George H.

Firestar 

Mesick, Michigan 

gdhelton(at)gmail.com (gdhelton(at)gmail.com)
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 19, 2018, at 8:19 PM, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)> wrote:
Quote:

I don't know why folks insist on using plastic fuel line.  It's an ultralight thing I guess.  Stuff is dangerous.  Some that use urethane fuel line say they need it so they can see the fuel?????
 
Way back in prehistoric days of my ultralighting, I automatically used urethane because that's what came in the kits and everyone else was using it.
 
After some problems I changed over to neoprene rubber fuel line many years ago.  Never had a problem with it.  Last for a very long time.  It has been around for a very long time.    But I can't see my fuel......
 
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
 
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Charlie England
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:42 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: urethane fuel (??) line

 
Well, after a year of distractions, I got back on the Kolb this afternoon, hoping to get it flying for our annual Pumpkin Drop here at Slobovia Outernational (MS71). It's been sitting for about 11 months, with the fuel I put in it last year. Non-ethanol premium mogas is what I put in it. I decided to drain the tank to add fresh fuel, so I added some line to the fuel output line (to reach a gas can) and blew into it to pressurize the tank & start fuel flowing. Got great pressure with one lung of air, but only air came back out the line. Finally pulled the fitting (installed in the top of the tank) and it came out with about an inch of the urethane flex line I used to reach the bottom of the tank, with a pickup filter on the other end. You can see in the pic what the pickup line looks like. Strange thing is, the lines on the outside of the tank are in good shape, even though they came off the same roll of fuel line and still have fuel in them.

 

I guess I'll replace with some teflon lined a/c grade stainless flex line. I must say, I'm a bit surprised that it would rot this badly, this quickly. I thought annual replacement was a precaution; not a "I hope I get this before I die" kind of thing.

 

BTW, if you're within striking distance of Jackson MS, come on down for the Pumpkin Drop. Contact info on the flier attached.




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PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2018 9:02 am    Post subject: Northern May fall color flight 10/13/2018 Reply with quote

We missed seeing you for a breakfast this year? Maybe next summer. I’d like to get a Kolb gathering together. Big Rapids is really enthusiastic about the idea. Trailer ins, camping and local flyers are all welcome for a two or three day event.Video was shot at about 9:00/9:30 in the morning. The clouds caused a lot of shadow early so I flew from one bright spot to the next. I had nice smooth air. The temperature was 31 degrees at takeoff. Good to hear from you. I’m hoping for one more flight before I fold her up for the year.
George H.
Firestar
Mesick, Michigan
gdhelton(at)gmail.com (gdhelton(at)gmail.com)

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On Oct 20, 2018, at 10:11 AM, Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com (neilsenrm(at)gmail.com)> wrote:
Quote:
George
What time of the day was the flight? The colors are wonderful. Thanks. You have a giggle that detracts. On my MKIII I mount the camera on the wing strut right where the jury strut attaches. The wings seem to dapen engine vibrations. 
The fall colors were early this year and I had hoped to get a flight in to record them also but the weather didn't cooperate. We left for Florida the day before your flight.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 11:21 PM George Helton <gdhelton(at)gmail.com (gdhelton(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

Quote:
Yup, same up here. That may have been my last flight of the year.

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2018, at 11:12 PM, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)> wrote:
Quote:

Beautiful color.

I caught some nice color out of Marysvale, Utah, a few weeks back. Snow is coming.

john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama

From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of George Helton
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 9:20 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Northern May fall color flight 10/13/2018

I changed the subject line, John. I thought you might enjoy this video. The music leaves a lot to be desired.

https://youtu.be/jB9sOPQf2AE

George H.

Firestar

Mesick, Michigan 

gdhelton(at)gmail.com (gdhelton(at)gmail.com)
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 19, 2018, at 8:19 PM, John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com (jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com)> wrote:
Quote:

I don't know why folks insist on using plastic fuel line. It's an ultralight thing I guess. Stuff is dangerous. Some that use urethane fuel line say they need it so they can see the fuel?????

Way back in prehistoric days of my ultralighting, I automatically used urethane because that's what came in the kits and everyone else was using it.

After some problems I changed over to neoprene rubber fuel line many years ago. Never had a problem with it. Last for a very long time. It has been around for a very long time. But I can't see my fuel......

john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama

From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Charlie England
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2018 5:42 PM
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com (kolb-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: urethane fuel (??) line


Well, after a year of distractions, I got back on the Kolb this afternoon, hoping to get it flying for our annual Pumpkin Drop here at Slobovia Outernational (MS71). It's been sitting for about 11 months, with the fuel I put in it last year. Non-ethanol premium mogas is what I put in it. I decided to drain the tank to add fresh fuel, so I added some line to the fuel output line (to reach a gas can) and blew into it to pressurize the tank & start fuel flowing. Got great pressure with one lung of air, but only air came back out the line. Finally pulled the fitting (installed in the top of the tank) and it came out with about an inch of the urethane flex line I used to reach the bottom of the tank, with a pickup filter on the other end. You can see in the pic what the pickup line looks like. Strange thing is, the lines on the outside of the tank are in good shape, even though they came off the same roll of fuel line and still have fuel in them.



I guess I'll replace with some teflon lined a/c grade stainless flex line. I must say, I'm a bit surprised that it would rot this badly, this quickly. I thought annual replacement was a precaution; not a "I hope I get this before I die" kind of thing.



BTW, if you're within striking distance of Jackson MS, come on down for the Pumpkin Drop. Contact info on the flier attached.






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