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BigD(at)DaveMorris.com
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Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 2:47 pm Post subject: (Almost) perfect airplane battery

I think Eric and I must have gone to the same University (the UoHK), 

judging from his product lineup and his comments.  We sling ideas 

like spaghetti against the wall while others sit around and 

snicker.  Sometimes the stuff sticks and we make money.  Most of the 

time it either falls off, or someone else comes along and makes the 

fortune.  We're eternal optimists who can become pessimists at the 

drop of a hat.



I think he just wanted to warn that the old saying "If you build it, 

they will come", is someone's idea of a cruel joke.  It's all a crap 

shoot, and a good marketing machine can sell utter crap, while a bad 

marketing machine can't even sell the best invention.  There are 

millions of great, sensational, earthshaking ideas out there.  Ask 

Gary Kildall.



I did some work for the inventor of an all-electric car back in 

1979.  It looked hotter than a Ferrari and could outrun many ordinary 

cars on the test track.  It had a Kevlar body (this in 1979!) and a 

lot of very innovative features.  Betcha never even heard of it.



Dave Morris

Yes, I invented the Bug Zapper.

No, I didn't patent it.



At 02:55 PM 4/11/2006, you wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   > I really think independently trying to get into the battery 

 business is a way to make a small fortune (you know the rest of the quote).



Possibly. But that is his watch. I have seen several people make

fortunes offering goods and service that I could not imagine a market

for. That is how innovation happens.

brian

Joined: 02 Jan 2006
Posts: 643
Location: Sacramento, California, USA

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 3:41 pm Post subject: (Almost) perfect airplane battery

Dave Morris "BigD" wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 I think Eric and I must have gone to the same University (the UoHK), 

 judging from his product lineup and his comments.  We sling ideas 

 like spaghetti against the wall while others sit around and 

 snicker.  Sometimes the stuff sticks and we make money.  Most of the 

 time it either falls off, or someone else comes along and makes the 

 fortune.  We're eternal optimists who can become pessimists at the 

 drop of a hat.

 

 I think he just wanted to warn that the old saying "If you build it, 

 they will come", is someone's idea of a cruel joke.  It's all a crap 

 shoot, and a good marketing machine can sell utter crap, while a bad 

 marketing machine can't even sell the best invention.  There are 

 millions of great, sensational, earthshaking ideas out there.  Ask 

 Gary Kildall.

 

 I did some work for the inventor of an all-electric car back in 

 1979.  It looked hotter than a Ferrari and could outrun many ordinary 

 cars on the test track.  It had a Kevlar body (this in 1979!) and a 

 lot of very innovative features.  Betcha never even heard of it.

 

 Dave Morris

 Yes, I invented the Bug Zapper.

 No, I didn't patent it.


	


Wow! And all I ever did was make it possible for PCs to connect to the 

Internet. Darn.



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Brian Lloyd                         361 Catterline Way

brian-yak at lloyd dot com          Folsom, CA 95630

+1.916.367.2131 (voice)             +1.270.912.0788 (fax)



I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .

- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

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brian-yak at lloyd dot com
+1.916.367.2131 (voice) +1.270.912.0788 (fax)

I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .
- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

david.glauser(at)xpsystem
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:13 pm Post subject: (Almost) perfect airplane battery

Regarding your signature -  you must not have had to deal with SoCal

Approach...



dg

Wow! And all I ever did was make it possible for PCs to connect to the

Internet. Darn.



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Brian Lloyd                         361 Catterline Way

brian-yak at lloyd dot com          Folsom, CA 95630

+1.916.367.2131 (voice)             +1.270.912.0788 (fax)



I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .

- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

wrmaxwell(at)bigpond.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 4:15 pm Post subject: (Almost) perfect airplane battery

was that the U of Hard Knocks or Hong Kong Dave?



Bill

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brian

Joined: 02 Jan 2006
Posts: 643
Location: Sacramento, California, USA

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 5:03 pm Post subject: (Almost) perfect airplane battery

David Glauser wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Regarding your signature -  you must not have had to deal with SoCal

 Approach...


	


I was born, raised, and learned to fly in SoCal. Tower enroute was the 

way to go as you didn't have to deal with center. I also harken back to 

the days that preceded transponders and the TCA (class B airspace to you 

young whipper-snappers).



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Brian Lloyd                         361 Catterline Way

brian-yak at lloyd dot com          Folsom, CA 95630

+1.916.367.2131 (voice)             +1.270.912.0788 (fax)



I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .

- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

blackoaks(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 6:48 pm Post subject: (Almost) perfect airplane battery

OK! How about Adcock Ranges?



On 4/11/06, Brian Lloyd <brian-yak(at)lloyd.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		  

  I also harken back to

 the days that preceded transponders and the TCA (class B airspace to you

 young whipper-snappers).

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John McMahon

Lancair Super ES

BobsV35B(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 7:04 pm Post subject: (Almost) perfect airplane battery

In a message dated 4/11/2006 9:51:37 P.M. Central Standard Time,  

blackoaks(at)gmail.com writes:

OK! How about Adcock Ranges?

 

Good Evening All,

 

The Adcock ranges were a major improvement over the Loop ranges. The loop  

ranges worked great until the wind came up.  Especially if the wind was  

accompanying a bit of freezing rain. 

 

When Doctor Adcock developed the LF range minus the wire loops, it made  true 

Radio Navigation practical.  The VHF based Visual Aural Range was a  major 

step forward, but the VHF Omnidirectional Range was developed so soon  after the 

VAR range stations that not too many folks got to fly them.

 

I remember it well and fondly!

 

Do Not Archive.

 

Happy  Skies,



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630  985-8503

blackoaks(at)gmail.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 8:38 pm Post subject: (Almost) perfect airplane battery

Well Old Bob, that was a test. Everybody knew about the loop ranges but I

thought 'most everybody except us old timers would have forgotten the

Adcocks.  How about Airway Beacons?????  I started flying in the late Fiftys

but was a ARTC controller before that!  Ah, those were the days.....

Do Not Archive.



 	  Quote: 	
		   I remember it well and fondly!



 Do Not Archive.



 Happy  Skies,



 Old Bob

John McMahon
	


Lancair Super ES

brian

Joined: 02 Jan 2006
Posts: 643
Location: Sacramento, California, USA

Posted: Tue Apr 11, 2006 11:21 pm Post subject: (Almost) perfect airplane battery

John McMahon wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 OK! How about Adcock Ranges?


	


When I would fly up to Canada with my father in the late '60s I enjoyed 

the challenge of flying the adcock range at Cranbrook on our way to 

Calgary. When I got to Calgary I would request (and get) a GCA approach.



The only thing I haven't done flying IFR is flown depending on a manual 

DF loop. Oh, and while I have played with an old LORAN-A receiver, I 

have never used one to navigate.



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 On 4/11/06, Brian Lloyd <brian-yak(at)lloyd.com> wrote:

>  I also harken back to

> the days that preceded transponders and the TCA (class B airspace to you

> young whipper-snappers).

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 John McMahon

 Lancair Super ES

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

  

  

 

 

 


	


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Brian Lloyd                         361 Catterline Way

brian-yak at lloyd dot com          Folsom, CA 95630

+1.916.367.2131 (voice)             +1.270.912.0788 (fax)



I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . . .

- Antoine de Saint-Exupery

jpleasants(at)bellsouth.n
Guest

Posted: Wed Apr 12, 2006 4:59 am Post subject: (Almost) perfect airplane battery

While we are on the subject of ancient/obscure nav systems, how about the

YE/YG beacon?



do not archive



Jim Pleasants

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