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rv8ch

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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 6:35 am Post subject: power for headsets

I'm about to install the headset and mic jacks, and I'm

wondering if there is an "industry standard" way to

provide power for ANR type headsets.  I've got the

Bose, and they want USD 31 for a special jack, and

USD 195 for the new headset cord.  That would buy

a lot of batteries.



Is there a better way?



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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 7:27 am Post subject: power for headsets

Mickey,



I sourced the "jacks" from the manufacturer a few years ago and bought a

couple for a Cessna 172.  The jacks alone were as much as the $31 kits from

ACS.  My vote is to use an "inline" fuse and get the jacks and wiring

harnesses all made up from ACS - they are $31 and that may be the price you

mentioned?  In the long run, that is the cheapest way to go.



My .02,

Alan



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rv8ch

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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 8:34 am Post subject: power for headsets

 	  Quote: 	
		   I sourced the "jacks" from the manufacturer a few years ago and bought a

 couple for a Cessna 172.  The jacks alone were as much as the $31 kits from

 ACS.  My vote is to use an "inline" fuse and get the jacks and wiring

 harnesses all made up from ACS - they are $31 and that may be the price you

 mentioned?  In the long run, that is the cheapest way to go.


	


Hi Alan,



Thanks for the info.  I'm a bit confused.  From what I understand,

I need to modify my current headsets, which have the standard jacks

and the AA battery pack, to use a different cable, which is USD 195,

or USD 164 (can't tell which) and I need to buy two USD 31

installation kits for the aircraft.



http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/bosehdst.php



After I've done this, I think my aircraft jacks will only work

with Bose headsets.



I am curious if there is a more "generic" way to get power to

ANR headsets, since I may experiment with other types of headsets

down the road, and I don't want to have a "bose only" installation.



Also, the investment seems to be substantial.  I can't see myself

paying USD 200 to replace a few AA batteries.



Thanks,

Mickey

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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:15 am Post subject: power for headsets

Good Morning Mickey,  



I went through that exercise a couple of years ago and I did install Bose  

jacks and used the Bose interface cord.

 

I think I made a mistake. 

 

Now, I can only use my Bose headsets in the airplane that has the special  

Bose Jacks. 

 

Our number one son decided to live with batteries so that he could use his  

Bose headsets in any airplane desired.  Works fine for him. The Bose X  

headsets automatically shut of the power if the unit is not used so the  batteries do 

last a long time

 

A very close friend had another idea. 

 

He made a small plastic device that fit in the Bose battery compartment and  

picked up the connection to the battery terminals. From that he extended a 

cord  that fit in a small two and half or three and a half millimeter power  

receptacle. When he wanted to use the Bose headsets in his airplane he used his  

homemade attachment to provide power from the aircraft system. For use in other 

 airplanes, he just stuck in the batteries.

 

I believe my friend's solution is the most elegant of all!

 

Happy  Skies,



Old Bob

AKA

Bob Siegfried

Ancient Aviator

Stearman  N3977A

Brookeridge Air Park LL22

Downers Grove, IL 60516

630  985-8503



 

In a message dated 4/1/2006 10:35:59 A.M. Central Standard Time,  

mick-matronics(at)rv8.ch writes:



Hi  Alan,



Thanks for the info.  I'm a bit confused.  From what I  understand,

I need to modify my current headsets, which have the standard  jacks

and the AA battery pack, to use a different cable, which is USD  195,

or USD 164 (can't tell which) and I need to buy two USD  31

installation kits for the  aircraft.



http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/bosehdst.php



After  I've done this, I think my aircraft jacks will only work

with Bose  headsets.

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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:52 am Post subject: power for headsets

Bose will sell you the old style "series II" battery pack, and cable.  It

allows the panel mount connector to plug into it when running off batteries

and then it has the 2 cables that you plug into the regular headphone/mic

plugs.  When you are in a panel mounted airplane, you just plug into the

panel mount jack.



I have no idea how much they want for it... Or go buy a used set of II's and

just use the battery pack/cord.  I suspect that the X's will last a good

long time on the old sytle box.  It's a 9v box with 6 - AA's in it 



Alan 



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Posted: Sat Apr 01, 2006 9:52 am Post subject: power for headsets

Ah, what version of the Bose do you have?  I have the series II's and they

have the panel jack on them... BUT, they also came with a battery pack and

an adapter harness so that they could be powered from either source (battery

or ship).  If you have the X's, you are screwed, you either buy the other

cable, or you keep feeding them batteries.  Sorry, I don't think there is

anyway to added ship power to those with out going to to the panel

connector.



Alan 



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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 6:39 pm Post subject: power for headsets

On Apr 1, 2006, at 8:33 AM, Mickey Coggins wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 matronics(at)rv8.ch>



 I'm about to install the headset and mic jacks, and I'm

 wondering if there is an "industry standard" way to

 provide power for ANR type headsets.  I've got the

 Bose, and they want USD 31 for a special jack, and

 USD 195 for the new headset cord.  That would buy

 a lot of batteries.



 Is there a better way?



 Thanks!

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 http://www.rv8.ch/

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Mickey--the Bose (a.k.a. "Redel") connectors are rapidly becoming a  

de facto standard in new factory GA aircraft.  I have flown or ridden  

on four fixed-wing aircraft and two helicopters built since '03 and  

all had the "bose" connectors paralleled to the old standard headset  

jacks.  They work fine in parallel, and you can mix and match  

headsets on then intercom.



When I fly the Cirrus, I use Telex ANR headsets with the new  

connector, and I usually use an old Bose headset in the RV with a  

battery pack.



As I type this, I have two of the Bose connectors sitting on my desk,  

waiting for a rainy day to install them in the RV-8.



All of the headset manufacturers (Bose, Telex, Lightspeed, and Peltor  

at least) will sell a headset wired this way.  If you can build an  

airplane, you can install the connector yourself.



You could also buy a female plug like the one in the battery pack for  

your Bose and wire that for power (If you have the old ones with a  

separate battery pack)



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Posted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 7:00 pm Post subject: power for headsets

one note on this.



I believe the DC also uses a similar jack - HOWEVER, there are 8 pin and 6

pin.  To my knowledge, only DC uses the 8.  Everyone else uses the 6 (better

known as the Bose connector).



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Posted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:49 am Post subject: power for headsets

 	  Quote: 	
		   Mickey--the Bose (a.k.a. "Redel") connectors are rapidly becoming a  

 de facto standard in new factory GA aircraft.  I have flown or ridden  

 on four fixed-wing aircraft and two helicopters built since '03 and  

 all had the "bose" connectors paralleled to the old standard headset  

 jacks.  They work fine in parallel, and you can mix and match  

 headsets on then intercom.


	


OK, I found the manufacturer for the connector, they're about

an hour drive from where I live.  Now I know why these plugs

are so expensive - they're made in Switzerland!  



http://www.lemo.com/



The price for the raw plugs in units of one are about USD 40

each.  I think I'll just stick with the batteries for now.



http://www.distrelec.com/ishopWebFront/search/luceneSearch.do?dispatch=find&showImage=on&artnrPhrase=116248



Many thanks for the details, gentlemen!



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