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PostPosted: Fri Mar 13, 2009 2:37 pm    Post subject: Manifold Drain Lines Reply with quote

Hi Guys

Can anyone tell me what size lines are used on the manifold Quick drain lines, 1/8 or 1/4?

Henry

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 3:05 pm    Post subject: Manifold Drain Lines Reply with quote

Henry, I assume you are talking about the intake manifold drains lines used
on the lower 3 cylinders?

Typically these systems use AN#4 fittings. Some people have used hard
Aluminum lines to connect everything together. I would recommend against
this because every system I have seen that does it that way eventually
cracks these lines due to engine vibration and then you end up with a intake
air leak which can be really insidious to find.

Instead use AN-4 fittings with steel braided flex hose. Suggest hose such
as this:

http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?tpc=Aeroquip_AQP_Stainless_Steel_Braided_R
acing_Hose&form_prod_id=614,600_331&action=product

Typical AN#4 braided hose has a .22 ID and a .44 OD.

Best Regards,

Mark Bitterlich


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Manifold Drain Lines Reply with quote

Hi Mark

Yes ,I was referring to the manifold drain lines , thanks for the info, theirs nothing like some one who has already been down the road.

Thanks very much Mark! Very Happy


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 4:18 pm    Post subject: Manifold Drain Lines Reply with quote

Yep, you guessed correctly. I used to use hard aluminum lines. Yep,
one cracked. Yep, it took awhile to realize what was going on with the
engine! Yep, I immediately switched to braided steel flexible lines.

Take care,

Mark

P.S. Here's a little hint. Leave the intake manifold drain valve OPEN
during engine priming. Reach in the cockpit and INTENTIONALLY
over-prime the engine. Don't go nuts here... Say about 10-12 strokes of
the primer. The excess fuel SHOULD come out the intake drain. If it
does not, do not start your engine, you have oil backed up in those
drain lines, and you also might have oil IN THE INTAKES that you do not
want to suck into the cylinder!

After doing this... Assuming fuel does come out the drain.. Look
carefully at all the lines and fittings in the system for fuel leaks.
I.E., It is hard to see anything coming out of these lines with the
engine running. It IS EASY to see fuel coming out of these lines and
fittings when you over-prime the engine and one is cracked or loose,
etc.

Lastly, after doing this, always gently pull the engine through making
sure you don't have any kind of hydraulic lock from the over-prime fuel
in a cylinder itself. This has never happened to me, but it is indeed
possible if you go nuts with the priming and happen to have an intake
valve open! As in.. I am saying this to cover my ass.

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: Manifold Drain Lines Reply with quote

Thanks again Mark

Once again, I hope I can learn from others as these mistakes could ruin my fishing trip! Thanks again for taking the time responding to my Question.

Henry


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:48 pm    Post subject: Manifold Drain Lines Reply with quote

Anytime. My pleasure.

Mark




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Thanks again Mark

  Once again, I hope I can learn from others as these mistakes could ruin my fishing trip! Thanks again for taking the time responding to my Question.

Henry

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PostPosted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 5:51 pm    Post subject: Manifold Drain Lines Reply with quote

The Kimball's down in Florida have a system all readily developed. It uses
stainless lines and a quick drain. I just installed one on my Pitts 12
project and it went in good.

John Clayton

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Manifold Drain Lines Reply with quote

Thanks Mark

I used an fittings, and all stainless steel braid lines and it worked perfectly the swivel female to female can be bought at any hydraulic shop !!

Thanks again

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:08 pm    Post subject: Manifold Drain Lines Reply with quote

The swivel fitting is a nice touch!

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