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RAMPEYBOY(at)aol.com
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:13 am    Post subject: new topic Reply with quote

OK, so the other guy got some blood boiling. I am just a reader on this
list. As I said earlier I'm a long way from being able to get the type rating. I
do enjoy reading about the experiences you guys have with the -29.
Does anyone want to share with a "new" private pilot what it's like to
fly the -29? What's your typical mission? What altitude do you mostly fly?
Someone told me the ceiling of the -29 was somewhere near 25,000. Is this
accurate?
Boyce


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 11:51 am    Post subject: new topic Reply with quote

Ceiling is 39k but you dont have enough gas to get there. Real easy to fly,
underpowered on takeoff but level off and pickup speed and then you can
climb like a bat out of hell. Rolls are easy, loops are real big, never
worry about Vne, just point her down and go like all get out.

I typically go up to around 6000 ft and just tool around, typical flight is
about 45 minutes.

Ernie
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OK, so the other guy got some blood boiling. I am just a reader on this
list. As I said earlier I'm a long way from being able to get the type
rating. I
do enjoy reading about the experiences you guys have with the -29.
Does anyone want to share with a "new" private pilot what it's like to
fly the -29? What's your typical mission? What altitude do you mostly
fly?
Someone told me the ceiling of the -29 was somewhere near 25,000. Is this
accurate?
Boyce




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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 1:48 pm    Post subject: new topic Reply with quote

And I'll add that I'll chip in on the fuel (50%) if you'll let me come
along and play, too!

David M.

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OK, so the other guy got some blood boiling. I am just a reader on this
list. As I said earlier I'm a long way from being able to get the type rating. I
do enjoy reading about the experiences you guys have with the -29.
Does anyone want to share with a "new" private pilot what it's like to
fly the -29? What's your typical mission? What altitude do you mostly fly?
Someone told me the ceiling of the -29 was somewhere near 25,000. Is this
accurate?
Boyce


















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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 5:40 pm    Post subject: new topic Reply with quote

Come to Reno and I'll put you in the front seat and let you fly mine.

As far as the ceiling goes, it's a BIG struggle to get above FL180 (18,000
feet) and with the new RVSM requirements (reduced vertical separation margin)
you cannot go above FL280 twenty eight thousand, but you're never going to get
a L-29 that high.
Plan on 10,000 feet to 17,500 feet typically.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 6:09 pm    Post subject: new topic Reply with quote

The fact that you're not likely to be above 18,000 is one reason I think the
29 would be ideal for me: First, I want a warbird eventually. Second, it
will by necessity be an entry level type bird. Third, I'm really not into a lot
of hot dog flying, so it doesn't have to climb at 40,000 ft/min. Lastly, at
the moment, I'm VFR only. I may never pursue the IFR rating. Above 18,000 and
you have to file IFR right? So, based on this I think the 29 would be a fun
VFR warbird to fly to local events, and proficiency Sunday afternoon flights.
I've gotten as far as I have in life by dreaming...no need to stop now right?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:59 pm    Post subject: new topic Reply with quote

all in all the L-29 is a great airplane to fly around. Stable and easy to fly. It's a great bargin for a warbird and attention getter when you go out saturday for your $500 burger or breakfast..Don't stop dreaming and you'll get there. got to have goals..Buy the L-29 now if you can dig up the cash while they are cheap!!! it would be good advice.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 8:38 pm    Post subject: new topic Reply with quote

How would you guys compare the L-29 to the Mig 21 (?) that can do Mach
2? I live about 350 miles from the Gulf of Mexico so maybe could fly
down there at subsonic, get 12 miles offshore then hit it hard and bust
Mach! I would enjoy that immensely at least once in my lifetime. They
are even cheaper than L-29's, too, at least as of a couple of years ago,
for the 2 seat trainer.

David M.
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The fact that you're not likely to be above 18,000 is one reason I think the
29 would be ideal for me: First, I want a warbird eventually. Second, it
will by necessity be an entry level type bird. Third, I'm really not into a lot
of hot dog flying, so it doesn't have to climb at 40,000 ft/min. Lastly, at
the moment, I'm VFR only. I may never pursue the IFR rating. Above 18,000 and
you have to file IFR right? So, based on this I think the 29 would be a fun
VFR warbird to fly to local events, and proficiency Sunday afternoon flights.
I've gotten as far as I have in life by dreaming...no need to stop now right?


















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PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: new topic Reply with quote

The 21 is a real fighter, the 29 and 39, iskra, casa, etc. are trainers. Not
even in the same league. I love my 29. forgiving and safe. The 21 is not a
Sunday toy like the trainers. I believe the 2 seat 21 holds less than 30 min
of fuel total. This aircraft will kill you fast if you are not a fighter
pilot.

As for the 29 and there being a soft market, fuel cost is the only thing
driving the prices down, you could not buy a reasonable Cherokee 180 for the
price they are going for right now. You do the math, what would you rather
have. Anyone who questions us on why we would own/fly them has never been in
a jet.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: new topic Reply with quote

Best rate is 190. Give it a try. But anything above the trees at warp speed
is a waste. Stay low and see more!

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 5:21 pm    Post subject: new topic Reply with quote

that's the way I like to fly too!!! about 80% power and down at tree top
level. Fuel burn is good, and still quite low considering and doing about
220-230 knots. I have flown for 1:20 like this with a take off in the middle (for
breakfast stop) and only burned 180 gallons. without the take off It would
have been maybe 150-160 easy.....


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